Renting good WRX supercar cost more than renting WRC2, but way less than renting WRC17.
and even you had money, teams don´t have extra cars available, so you can only fight for places 6-12.
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Renting good WRX supercar cost more than renting WRC2, but way less than renting WRC17.
and even you had money, teams don´t have extra cars available, so you can only fight for places 6-12.
Not one race this season has had the same 6 drivers in the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Why are Audi etc in RX? Because it'll be comparatively cheap (compared to WEC, F1 & WRC), a lot of countries have free to view coverage, it's more accessible than WRC (not spread over 3-4 days) and the championship is going electric so they can boast about eco credentials (which will help them gloss over dieselgate...why do you think VW threw money at Pikes Peak). It may not be considered 'serious' motorsport by many, but as a advertising vehicle it strikes me as pretty good 'bang for buck'.
It's mostly the same driver's / teams in the Finals as they are the best. Thats how sport works.
Other drivers and teams have the chance to come in and compete but they havent been able to beat the established guys.
One idea might be to reduce the number of Qualifying rounds, so if a top guy has a bad race someone lower down could have chance to make a SF or Final...
Quite an important difference. Solberg was beside, and was always beside. Ekström never cleared Solberg, and turned in.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Here he just drove in to Hansen to make his gap. As Ekström said himself to Swedish Television, when he looked at the footage, he realized he should've been 20-30cm further in to avoid contact in the first place.
I'm sure money was a factor, but Heikkinen hasn't delivered any decent results for some time, the EKS S1 was wasted in his hands last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
The six works cars (seven if you include Kevin Hansen) have had a ton of money and development thrown at them, so it's to be expected that those cars are going to be certainties for the semis. With a decent development driver pushing them I think the GCK cars could be regular finalists as well, but I don't think Chichiret or Grosset-Janin have the experience to help refine the cars (Grosset-Janin is a great driver though).
Why are Audi committed to the WRX? Electric rallycross. They were one of the first manufacturers to talk about it.
Kristofferson has been dominant this year, and impressively so. The package of car and driver is very solid, so it's well deserved.
From second to seventh it's very even, a lot more even than it has been for years and years in WRC. And every round this year has had either shocking results, incidents or weather, or all of the above. So yeah, it's nothing like watching paint dry (WRC). For instance, would have imagined a week ago that Grosset-Janin would claim third place in Höljes?
Some more news about how World RX will look like from 2020 on:
-The final decision about the introduction of electric cars will be made on August 15 this year
-Peugeot, VW, Audi and Ford are expected to join, Volvo and BMW are interested, but no-one really believes that we will see them on the grid
-The chassis kit built by Oreca will cost 750.000 Euros, additionally 3-5 Mio. Euros have to be paid for the development costs
-Manufacturers have to build four cars, presumably they will not be sold to privateers, but entered by the manufacturers themselves (splitting is possible, e.g. Volkswagen Motorsport two cars, PSRX two cars)
-From 2021 on manufacturers have to build six cars, this might be a chance for privateers to buy them
-If privateers want to build their own cars, they have to use "neutral" body shells designed by the FIA to make sure that there is no "concealed" manufacturer involvement (otherwise they have to pay the full amount for the development costs of the chassis etc. like every other manufacturer)
-Renault/Nissan was interested in World RX, but decided to concentrate on Formula E
-No Hyundai involvement as well, Marcus Grönholm is unhappy about the all-electric switch and won't return with his own team
-Olsbergs MSE hasn´t made a final decision yet, but right now they don´t expect to be supported by Ford Performance, so probably no involvement
-STARD is the only privateer team which is interested in World RX, but there might be a chance that it becomes a real manufacturer team (Stohl has good links to China, so maybe a Chinese manufacturer)
-no information what Euro RX will look like
In summary: probably 16 cars in 2020 (each manufacturer four cars), no privateer teams
Just a hypothetical question. When the fire breathing machines are banned from WRX, could someone create a championship for the fire breathing monsters that with well designed marketing and promoting goes past the popularity of WRX?
EuroRX will probably continue as it is. With the Petrol carsQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Talking about EuroRX, the Fia Euro Autocross champioship had another "crazy" crash on the Super Buggy finale. I believe all five races from this season had a big crash envolving the Super Buggys... but still..its one of the coolest racing series from nowadays IMO. Driver was OK
https://twitter.com/FIAEuroAX/status...55018235273216
Btw... 5 races, 5 different winners. Just hope FIA doesnt plans to make it a WOrld Series with manufacturer teams beating everybody... hehe
GCK started a pool to know how much we support the electric RX thing:
https://www.facebook.com/54571382210...pp_data=%7B%7D
And heres one good comment
"RX engine's sound are the BEST THING in nowadays motorsport IMO, but tbh, if it stays easy to watch on the internet, if it have some more free to air tv in europe, if the cars are really more powerfull than the current petrol cars and if they really have a new crazy-agressive look then maybe this electricRX series could help to calm racing fans down when it comes to electric cars u'know? Electric cars in rallycross are the ONLY space where the e-cars could really be faster than the petrol series. (FE is slower than F1, MotoE is slower than MotoGP, eTCR is slower than WTCC etc). So that may help..... Im in the "middle". I LOVE nowaday's petrol cars but I also like the new tech so IDK what to say. Just dont be slower than the EuroRX cars that will continue to be petrol cars. I also like the idea that FIA will demand manufatcurers to have one or two satelite/costumer teams. That should help the "Privateer" teams when it comes to costs. Lets see how it goes"
They're slower because they're heavier with all the batteries. I don't thing that'll be the case with RX as there are not much capacity requirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
Anyway that's the direction manufacturers will go, especially VAG group. Don't expect them to be more sound exciting though.
Thats what it was said. That electric RX is going to be the first series where the Electric cars are faster than the "petrol" series. (Like those examples)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
That's not what it says, it says "it could", which is in the space of probability. Anyway there is no revolution, they are already faster at the pinnacle of hill climb racing, i.e. Pikes Peak.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
Have you seen the Heidfeld record run? It's crazy quick regardless of what tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
I'm still torn on the idea of ElectricRX, on one hand the torque and power will be spectacular but on the other it'll be a huge shame to lose the theatre and sound of current supercars. I'd like to see the two classes continue to run, but not sure if the money will be there to sustain it. Maybe IMG/Monster should spend less money on freebies and flying birds in leather kecks around the world.
The F1 car has more than double power/weight ratio...no suprise it's faster on a track like that.
So the World Championship is back this weekend: can anyone stop Kristoffersson?
If yes then it's probably Solberg.
The French RX series upload their races on youtube. They posted the 6 races that already happened this year. They are on the summer vacation. Theres 4 rounds left yet.
Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/user/rallycrossfrance/videos
The "supercar final" is always the last part of the video. Chicherit is racing that championship with a Clio.
And tbh Im enjoying more these national series than the WorldRX. Idk why... I think Im not a huge fan of manufacturers racing in RallyCross. I like when its all privateers, maybe a customer team.. u'know?
I really like watching the EuroRX races during the WRX broadcast.
THeres the Argentinian RX series too, with MaxiRally cars. They have way less power, but the racing is good too
Heres the round 2 finale -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAjUCDV_2E4
And heres the first 3 races from Nordic RallyX. Its one of my favorite championships too
https://vimeo.com/feedbackstcc
Anyway. Hope you are all crazy bout rallycross like me! hehe Enjoy
I hate to say this, but I think COTA's RX track is too short..
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First thought is no, but EKS seem to have done a fair bit of testing and in the FB interview with Bakkerud he suggested that they've made several changes. I get the feeling that Peugeot are quick enough to challenge VW but haven't had the luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbtstt
Ekstrom has got a decent Q1 grid to start off with, and yet again Peugeot have a raw deal where all 3 are in the same race. If they have any sense they'll just get heads down and try to set the time, but Larsson and Baumanis are always going to be racey.
Nice to watch WRX Qualifying live on a Sat night from Canada.
Loeb fastest in Q1.
Loving it, been watching ARX and WRX all evening, with IMSA.tv in between.
Initially seems like Audi and Peugeot have made big gains in the summer break and looking pretty equal with VW...or VW just had poor luck with being shuffled out and getting caught after the joker. Definitely looks like the big 3 are further ahead of GRX & OMSE than earlier races.
Yep, the 3 big teams all seem much closer now.
Peugeot looking especially good here with Loeb's neat driving.
In 40 minutes dogs !!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYWXhRN7c_Y
So Kristophersson beats Loeb to 1st place by 1 point after Q4.
Loeb was 'taken out' by Ekstrom in Q3, but for me it was a racing incident.
https://i.imgur.com/SjykxHZ.jpg
What an end to SF2 ... crazy Loeb mistake and fight to the line with Timur !
Action packed weekend, plenty of incidents to discuss. The Loeb/EKS struck me as a racing incident, if anything more as a result of Loeb drifting wide. Great to see Baumanis in the final but it highlighted how far off the pace those guys are that he finished so far down. Very nearly an epic drive from Bakkerud in the semi too, I wonder if he had let off a bit once he was down in 4th (i.e could he actually have been close enough to take advantage of Loeb's mistake). Really got me hyped for my visit to Latvia next month.
A great event overall and nice to see Audi and Peugeot closer to the VW. But Kristofferson, he's the ultimate professional. It may seem a little dull, in terms of headlines, that he wins all the time. But in the future, this will be looked back upon as the making of a legend.
To win the event from 9th after Q2 is impressive. And it wasnt due to any VW car-superiority as the Peugeots and Audis were now pretty much equal on pace.
A shame for Loeb though, it would've been good to see if he could win without those mistakes.
Curious to see how eWRX will evolve. For now it’s amazing how fast the changes were decided and how easily manus accepted the use of a common chassis; like in Formula E, it seems it’s more about marketing and getting ASAP into EV’s hysteria than really trying to improve the sport.
Btw, Loehac organizer is one of the few standing against eWRC; according to him, with eWRX replacing WRX, Rallycross is in danger: https://www.autohebdo.fr/autres-cour...er-196666.html
Only Loheac or French in general..?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
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I think he's referring to the sport in general, however people have to ask themselves whether the whole sport is in danger as a result of eRX, or just the WRX. In that article he complains about electric, but also that privateers are driven out by the high cost as a result of having manufacturers involved.
Surely if that's the case then having the manufacturers focus on eRX is a good thing? They can go and do that while all the privateer teams (Munnich, DA, probably OMSE, Pucher etc.) can have a championship more like European Rallycross used to be. Difficulty will be getting a promoter.
Interesting that people like circuit owners are speaking out against WRX/IMG, according to the Albatec website "average reach across all platforms per event rising from 430,000 in 2013 to 6.7 million in 2014 and live event attendance was another success story with a 130% increase in fans attending races in 2014." so places like Loheac have almost certainly benefitted, if only in the short term.
http://albatecracing.com/?page_id=10
He mostly complains about events organizers not being listen about eWRX sudden introduction (it was supposed to be a step by step process) and the lack of future for private teams in it, like you've mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
I hate to say this, but apparently, GRC's YouTube channel has been deleted..
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Mate... "GRC" has been deleted heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
With the eWRX becoming a playground for the manufacturers, I just hope the EuroRX get back to its original place u'know? +20 Privateers, 8 or 9 tracks per year... Places like Lydden Hill, Loheac, Valkenswaard, Nyirad, that track in Austria. Poland, Czech Rep, Estering (who is probably leaving in 2019 - heard something on twitter)
#MakeEUROrxGreatAgain HAHAHAH
e-WRX will be postponed until 2021..
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And now the OMSE Civic has been homologated for FIA so can be used in WRX and ARX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
Real shame if Estering goes, it's one of the best events on the calendar. I even overhead a rumour that Holjes is going after 2019 but I find that hard to believe given it's probably the best attended event of the season. Love the idea of EuroRX not being a support series and having a complete different list of tracks that are more traditional. Lets be honest, most of us would rather see Lydden instead of Silverstone or COTA...although Franciacorta was an entertaining track.
FIA World Rallycross Championship to postpone introduction of electric cars until 2021 to give manufacturers optimal time to develop their plans.
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