What Happens Next?

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Originally Posted by gofastandwynn

Oh yea, I keep on hearing how the NFL and F1 are going to go under any minute now...

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are you saying they are as profitable as the NFL and F1?

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Originally Posted by sanguin

In your opinion.

CC can wait to see how the cash outlay works for the other series.That will be very telling. I don't think CC has anything to worry about. IMO

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Give me a break. If CC waits much longer the prospects of attracting new sponsors to CC will be nil. Perhaps you're hoping Chico's Bail Bond will step up and sponsor a KK car.

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Originally Posted by sanguin

well put, trans-am is totally different in that it was run on manufacturer support, CC is not.

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No, but the dolt who ran Trans-Am into the ground now owns CC! Thats troublesome IMO.

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Originally Posted by pvtjoker

No, but the dolt who ran Trans-Am into the ground now owns CC! Thats troublesome IMO.

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Utter nonsense pvt. If returning champion Brian Simo couldn't get a factory ride do you really think Trans-Am was in a position to be saved? When the early signs of struggle for title sponsorship surfaced, Claggett's group had to make a business decision and concentrate on ALMS.

For many in the paddock, they were happy the five time champion Gentilozzi stepped up to try to save the series. It was more of an emotional decision by PG in my opinion. The only similarity between that and CC is the fact there are still outside forces trying to undermine the motor racing market in North America for their own benefit.

Now they have JPM, AJ and JV at Talladega this weekend. Add Sam Hornish and Dario in 2008. Relentless pursuit of killing the "competition" is an understatement. That's why CC has taken the fight offshore.

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Originally Posted by Starter

To be fair, SCCA ran it into the ground before PG got his hands on it. He just finished the job.

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Starter. I respect you, even when you slap me on the wrist :) , but respectfully, PG had the opportunity to make it work and his actions killed it...much the way we now see CCWS dying a slow death. the difference with PG was that he changed rules mid-stream, messed with great talent like Boris Said and Tommy Kendall and basically acted like it was his own plaything, which he could drive in and win whenever he wanted to..TB, you wanna' chime in here?

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Originally Posted by sanguin

are you saying they are as profitable as the NFL and F1?

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Well to use your own words, the IRL "is a private co. ,no one knows its' financials."

The similarities between the downfall of the two series(dwindling sponsors and manufacturer involvement), the failure of their core business plans (reliance on festivals and not racing) and the cast of characters( PG, SJ and various SCCA brass) are strikingly familiar.

I think we can safely say PG is not exactly a turn-around specialist.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

The similarities between the downfall of the two series(dwindling sponsors and manufacturer involvement),

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Careful, you could be talking about another series too. They are not the same at all, CC has their own engines and does not rely on manufacturer support. This is why they won't fail.

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Originally Posted by sanguin

Careful, you could be talking about another series too. They are not the same at all, CC has their own engines and does not rely on manufacturer support. This is why they won't fail.

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Please name ONE top level series that has ever survived without manufacturer involvement.

Gary

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Originally Posted by Starter

No offense. My point is that SCCA had messed it up pretty well even before they leased it to PG. It was damaged goods when he took it on. He didn't do anything to fix that. Your point about it becomming PG's private plaything is very well taken.

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