Yes, but the key is how good that defence is. The Spanish FIA steward is in the same position as we are at the moment...he "thinks" but doesn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
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Yes, but the key is how good that defence is. The Spanish FIA steward is in the same position as we are at the moment...he "thinks" but doesn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
Where is Monty Python when you need him?
...in Ferrari's photocopy room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
and Joaquin Verdegay is a Fernando fan as well as his compatriot!!!!!....Verdegay is talking bo!!ackos coz he doesnt want to see Fernando chucked out while hes chasing his 3rd straight title, and neither do I.......i wanted to see FA win this year and shut a few people up when he overhauled Lewboy in the points!!!!!.....but that scenario is looking decidedly shaky at the moment from what i can see!!!!......stepney wants to name names to clear himself......ahhhh.....how very nice of him.......hes even admitted to emptying his pockets the idiot!!!!!!!!!....he shoulda said he was getting some money out or scratching his dick or something!!!!...anything else other than admit he was "emptying " his pockets of some "powder" that he didnt know where it came from!!!!!!!......Coughlans sworn affadavit allegedly states that John Neale and others at McLaren have seen the Ferarri "intellectual property"...........that means they are S-T-U-F-F-E-D!!!...Even if wRONg Dennis hasnt seen this material, the fact that it is in the posession of his chief designer leaves poor old wRONg up sh!t creek without a paddle!!!!! :( read the TIMES online and read what madmax has already stated as to whether the team and drivers can be seperated from each other as far as any sanctions or punishment is concerned!!!!)....old max is already lifting the hammer and if you read between the lines it is already clear he is maneuvering himself into a position whereby whatever punishment is meted out it will come as no surprise to ANY of us except McLaren!!!!!!....whether stepney and coughlan intended to pool their respective knowledge and take it to Honda at a later date is all pie in the sky; the FACT is that coughlan has been caught with Ferarris data and he is (was) a senior member of McLaren, so thats the situation max is looking at!!!!! for coughlan to put McLaren in such a compromising position after they were doing so well this season is complete madness and totally unforgivable imo!!!!!!....i hope they nail his nuts to the wall and watch him bleed to death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the mans a moron!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
flat....this is f1 youre talking about!!!!.....even if Ferarri thought McLaren were totally innocent of any wrongdoing, they wouldnt say so!!!!!!!!!!!!.....they would most likely INSIST that McLaren were involved anyway!!!!....and as for Verdegay and his "pre-disclosure", he is only giving his thoughts on the matter as it stands at the moment!!!.....its like poison pixie saying last week that FA and LH will not be docked points !!!!!.....ecclestone should stop shooting his mouth off about any verdicts or punishments dished out by the fia, because it is nothing to do with him!!!!!...he is not on the board of the fia, he is this supposed "supremo" we keep being told!!!!!!he runs the commercial side of FOA, and the FOM, tho hes supposedly sold most of his controlling interest to some consortium or other(i cant recall the name atm), but he obviously kept his foot in the door enough that we have to keep seeing and hearing the little creep!!!!!!!....as the championship stands at the moment, Ferarri would like nothing in the world MORE than to see their biggest rivals eliminated from this season!!!!!! at the end of the day it is all about winning!!!!.....2nd is first of the losers!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
and this post needs reading again!!!!!!...... :) ...........so true!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
exactly!!!!!......and wasnt it BEFORE the Australian gp that McLaren were requesting clarification on Ferarris "flexible floor".??????........max has already put 6 and 9 together and come up with 69!!!!!!! :dozey: ........i thought it was 15 but what do i know???!!!!............only Ferarri had this innovation on their 07 car, so how could McLaren be seeking clarification on a technical issue concerning a Ferarri before the first race of the season, when this design feature would have most likely imo still have been top secret!!!!!! i dont doubt for 1 second that wRONg is totally innocent , but it is coughlans actions that have undermined his team and put them in this ludicrous position... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hendersen
Again this ****head? Man, you completely ruined my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Look, I'm a big Ferrari fan so it may come as a surprise that I'm defending Mclaren, but......Quote:
Originally Posted by Racehound
It's not unusual for a team to protest, or in this case enquire as to the legality of, another teams car at the first race of the season.....
Ferrari did just that in 1998 with Mclaren's 4 pedal set-up.
Protesting the Ferrari floor doesn't prove anything.
It's highly likely that the FIA will not find any evidence of Mclaren using the Ferrari designs on their own car., but that is actually a side issue.......the real issue is how long did Mclaren's management know that Coughlan had the Ferrari designs before they suspended him.
If it really was a case of the Mclaren management only finding out on the morning they suspended him, then they are in the clear.
If, however, there was any sort of delay.....they are fecked.
Still not over it that he was among the stewards at Monaco in '06 who stripped Schuey off his pole position?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan