another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

A gun gives one a real sense of power , and is a real thrill to shoot .
The higher the destructive power in your hands , the more thrill .

That's the reality of it .

I think you'd be surprised at how long the line-ups would be if there was a chance for the average Brit to try his/her hand at just firing an automatic weapon if there was a free day at a shooting range in downtown London .

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I can well understand the enjoyment factor associated with shooting as a sport or pastime, and would never seek further to restrict that. But outside of the realm of sport I believe that 'sense of power' is, for want of a better phrase, misplaced. I for one have no desire for a 'sense of power' bestowed on me purely by virtue of how big a gun I own. Add in the manner in which guns have become part of normality for many Americans and I can well imagine how the combination has become toxic.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

So , maybe it is a "mindset" , but not a particularly paranoid one .

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Looked at gun ownership in purely recreational terms, maybe not, but gun ownership for reasons of protection is surely born out of paranoia or deep societal problems.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

If I was approached my administration I would be interested in carrying a handgun at my school, with proper training, of course. I recognize that the possibility of an attack is remote, but we are vulnerable. Our school is a private one, but not in the best area of town. We have one armed security person on campus, and for many buildings one needs a swipe card to enter. On the other hand, the door to my classroom has a big window, opens inward and, therefore, cannot be barricaded. We have lockdown procedures but have never drilled it.

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To look at this another way, are you not depressed by the need for such security measures? As I stated earlier, the very notion of their being necessary is simply laughable to Europeans.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Children learning about guns, their safe operation and use, is not a bad thing.

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I think it's an infinitely depressing thing. In no way do I feel I've missed out as a result of not learning about guns in school. What need do I have for such education?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

To look at this another way, are you not depressed by the need for such security measures? As I stated earlier, the very notion of their being necessary is simply laughable to Europeans.

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Depressed? No.It's lamentable, though. I feel quite safe. I'm sure Sandy Hook felt safe before last Friday. The odds of me or my students being hurt are clearly remote but, as I say that, I believe gun violence, with or without stricter regulations, will continue. I do sense the virtue of being perhaps a bit over-prepared.

I'm glad Europeans feel safe, and this country would do well to thoroughly consider what other countries do--and put the results in the proper context.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

Depressed? No.It's lamentable, though. I feel quite safe. I'm sure Sandy Hook felt safe before last Friday. The odds of me or my students being hurt are clearly remote but, as I say that, I believe gun violence, with or without stricter regulations, will continue. I do sense the virtue of being perhaps a bit over-prepared.

I'm glad Europeans feel safe, and this country would do well to thoroughly consider what other countries do--and put the results in the proper context.

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I agree very much with your sentiments. However, do you not consider it potentially counter-productive to, potentially, perpetuate the feeling of insecurity amongst your students by way of such over-preparation?

I have felt for years that all school teachers should be armed. This would stop a lot of this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I agree very much with your sentiments. However, do you not consider it potentially counter-productive to, potentially, perpetuate the feeling of insecurity amongst your students by way of such over-preparation?

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Or perhaps the students will feel safer, just as they would if a uniformed policeman was in the classroom with them?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I agree very much with your sentiments. However, do you not consider it potentially counter-productive to, potentially, perpetuate the feeling of insecurity amongst your students by way of such over-preparation?

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I have seen the light!! Thank you BDunnell. I finally understand, being prepared for something, however remote the chances of it happening are, will only instill feelings of insecurity. You're right! How could I have ever been so dumb?

Now to go home and remove all the smoke detectors and carbon monoxide detectors from my home. Rip out the seat belts from my car. Cancel all my insurance. Remove the warning labels off of everything that I own. And live the good life of not having any feelings of insecurity.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I have felt for years that all school teachers should be armed. This would stop a lot of this nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Starter

Or perhaps the students will feel safer, just as they would if a uniformed policeman was in the classroom with them?

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I wouldn't go that far. But having a uniformed police officer on school grounds would not be a bad idea at all.