That's problably what Richards promised to them. He failed. Ze germans are very strict people ...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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That's problably what Richards promised to them. He failed. Ze germans are very strict people ...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
BMW got into this with an open eye. Anything else is jusst b**l s**t. And when you say A you have to do B. But BMW seems not to have done that. And they have so much to win on this. But doesn´t take their chance. They just want to do ladycup DTM...Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
DTM is not ladycup...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
+1 I'd like to here your justification too. He knows some of the events on the calendar...Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelman
No, it's CrapCup ;) ... I mean I love circuit racing (F1, GP2 and WTCC) but honestly, DTM is utter crap racing. It's nothing but cheating and driving people off tracks...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I will never understand that a huge company like BMW will only do these second hand series like DTM and GT racing. They should be in F1 and WRC, where the other big brands are.
Can't wait to hear your reasoning behind this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
The DTM must be doing something right to attract Manufacturers like Audi, Mercedes & BMW. Add in all the sponsors of the series - and you have a very healthy series. It is a proper professional Championship, however, unfortunately, the racing is pretty poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
When the WRC can start attracting more big money Manufacturers and sponsors then we might start getting somewhere. At the moment, as shown by the Prodrive-Mini saga; they're staying away as it's not attractive to them.
Maybe you don't know but live DTM millions of people are watching on TV and that' why they are there.
There's some utter rubbish being posted here about the DTM, in my view. The racing has generally become utterly tedious — a DTM race is the only sporting event I've ever left before the end out of sheer boredom — but no-one can doubt that the cars are pretty serious machinery, and that it has a huge following in Germany. These factors alone are surely sufficient grounds for BMW to justify its entry. I'm surprised it's been gone from the DTM for so long.
yes they do...its a German racing series... that is enough for those manufacturers...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I am not a fan of go in circles racing... but DTM is nice... i actually think it might be the only racing event which i might watch for around 10 minutes after the start and then turn off...
Prodrive's entry name will change name from "MINI WRC TEAM" to "Prodrive WRC Team" for the next rally and onwards.
It's first and foremost a German championship and not a world championship (therefor lower costs due to less travel costs). It only attracts Audi, Mercedes and BMW because it's a fight of German pride.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
And it's not a healthy series. It's full of cheating and pushing drivers off track because the teams-boss says they have to. It's a joke series and has nothing to do with proper racing. The amount of cheating and lack of respect for your competitor both on and off track is unbelieveable. All this has lead to several talks over the years about closing down the series. So DTM is not a healthy series and they are not doing things right.
Are you sure you've watched the DTM - it sounds as though you're describing the BTCC....were the driving standards are poor. The DTM's problem is the lack of action....
Version 01B in Portugal to Sordo, Armindo and Sandel.
Will Sandell go to NZ?
Another Mini arrives in Ireland:
McGarrity’s Mini will mix it with big guns - Motorsport, Sport - Belfasttelegraph.co.uk
Ex Nobre RGB car:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...22302802_n.jpg
Hardly used then :-)
Who's is that? very nice livery.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
According to Kerr's Tyres livery, it's McGarrity's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
He has also apparently put his name down for the first RHD car to be delivered in May.
Can you bend it me from a barbwire, who build those cars? Prodrive?
Okay thank you for that. I do not follow Irish Rallying so I was wondering if you could clear up a few points for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
1. Where do guys like this get the money for a MINI WRC?
2. Do Irish rally drivers prefer Prodrive machines?
3. Will Meeke actually do Crcuit of Ireland in anything? There has been a lot of speculation that he will run in IRC class with the ST 1.6 or National class with a WRC MINI. Has there been any development on this?
Thanks a lot.
1. Most top irish drivers are successful businessmen, with a long love for the sport and have pursued it as their hobbie from their youth until middle age. Derek mcgarrity is a sucessful helicopter and rally car trader with a long association with prodrive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
2. Prodrive have over 20 years experience of setting up cars for Irish tar since the days of the rothmans porsches, 6r4s and BMW m3s. They have perfected the art of spring and damper settings for the unique characteristics of Irish Tarmac. It also helps that they Provide a comprehensive technical support. I don't work for them by the way!!
3. This looks highly unlikely, I don't know if it will happen, but by the sounds of things, the two boys don't have the budget for it and it might conflict with their existing contract, for all that now appears to be worth.
Oi! Gravelman, I've only ever done gravel (or snow) rally and that tarmac stuff is very strange to me, all of it. Now since about before i started in '84 I read about Irish tarmac and it is always referred to as "unique".... Now it seems narrow, but I've driven narrow English 'whites" and French "D" roads (millions of kms on them)(well it seems like millions in a 404 D ), so it can't be that. It seems bumpier, and it seems to have a lot of dirt and crap on it....what is it that's different and unique?Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelman
Bit like the ******* offspring of forest and Tarmac to be honest. Very bumpy, with lots of mud and loose gravel, broken surfaces, big jumps down narrow lanes. I've heard of people using gravel dampers with tarmac springs, I stand to be corrected on that by people with more technical knowhow than a navigator!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Tanks. That was my impression, and one of the reasons I consider tarmac scarier than hell. I reckon most normal people kinda expect grip when its tarmac and are surprised when the tires let go....sometimes with exciting repair bills as a result..Gravel, if I have grip I'm happy but I'm not expecting it so no big surprise if its not there. Result: Gravel=happiness..Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelman
And since all we have is gravel I'm a happy boy.
Cannot seem to post YouTube link (using iPad), but to give yourself the best idea of some o the conditions, look up "Bertie fisher on board Galway 1999", sm other related links will come up and that will give you an idea of the fun we have over here, assuming we don hit any walls..ahem!!Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Here's a link to give you a bit of an idea what makes irish roads different Bertie Fisher-Atlantic Drive,Donegal 1999 - YouTube
I have been competing almost only on tarmac, and i find gravel scary as hell, because of the lack of grip :-) So i guess it depends on what you're used to :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
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Originally Posted by noel157
Yes i hear from a prodrive sourse that it may be here sooner than that that car will be for DMG himself and the other car will be for HireQuote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Bit of competition in the hirecar business. Obviously targeting the European market, not just Irish customersQuote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
Does your source know if the Irish cars will have all the updates parts that Dani will have in WRC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinto
What car do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by kiil
as far as i aware the are customer spec car but with DMG you will never know the score he keeps things close,
Below is a press release from Prodrive; in it there is info about the new 1B Mini. Also they have a altered livery (more exposure for BP). Hope to see this continuing.
http://www.prodrive.com/p_releases.html?id=335
Great photo! Looks like Prodrive are not wearing their own uniform as opposed to MINI uniforms. Why does only Dani get a 01B? I thought that Patrik would also get one?
They'll be having a foot in each camp. Sordo with the untried new version and Sandell with the proven finisher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
BMW doesn't apparently has any interest, their media site hasn't anything on rallies since Monte Carlo...