Israel refuses peace negotiations

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Originally Posted by Rani

Are you saying that Israel is part of a country called Arabia now?

Maybe Finland is part of a country called Lapland then?

Are you aware of the fact that 'region', 'country' and 'language' mean different things?

I like it better when Camelopard posts against Israel, at least he knows some facts and doesn't just babble. I'd expect someone with such extreme opinions as you (Eki) to at least know what you're talking about. I don't mean to insult you but you are showing quite a bit of ignorance over the last posts.

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Eki is starting to look more and more like a troll, as I doubt he actually did not know what Arabia is and is not.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Are you saying that Israel is part of a country called Arabia now?

Maybe Finland is part of a country called Lapland then?

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It's not so simple. Some seem to think that Finland is in Scandinavia, when in fact only Lapland part of Finland is part of the Scandinavian peninsula. Thought you knew that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Peninsula

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The Scandinavian Peninsula is a geographic region in northern Europe, consisting of Norway, Sweden and part of northern Finland.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Of course they weren't printed back then. I sure as hell know there aren't and never been any maps from those times that read 'Palestine' because the term only began to be used in 1917.

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Before the fall of the Ottoman Empire, the Levant (now there's a work which Eki won't have heard of either), it was all part of one eyalet called Şam or Syria.
Syrioi was the Greek word for Ashur, which itself was capital of the Assyrian Empire.

Palaistinē is a Latin word imposed on the area by the Romans in 63BC. The name otherwise was the Iudaea Province, or Judaea.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Oh, you're using Bible and other obscure texts as a map and a travel guide. If you want to go that way, also the Philistines are mentioned in the Bible and obscure texts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines
Although it seems that the Jews only consider this as Palestine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleshet

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Even the palestinians themselves don't consider themselves descendents of the philistines. Just like australians don't consider themselves austrians just because their names have a similar ring to them.

The philistines spoke an ancient indo-european language that has nothing to do with arabic. They are related to the greek mycenaeans. Sorry but I don't see any resemblence between palestinian arabs and greeks. Some of the music might sound similar but that's about it.

I see you've come to the stage of panicky babbling and unsubstantiated rambling.

BTW I know exactly where lapland is. I've seen maps of the place and studied it in geography lessons in the sixth grade. I think the arabian peninsula was on my second or third grade curriculum.

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Originally Posted by SOD

I read this as:

Dear israel,

now that we no longer need you to be our b*tch in the ME.

We want you be a buffer between ourselves and the restless Mexicans.

Signed,

A reasonable American

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works for me !!!!

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Originally Posted by Rani

...Of course they weren't printed back then. I sure as hell know there aren't and never been any maps from those times that read 'Palestine' because the term only began to be used in 1917.

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Well, I think the "Land of Canaan" pre-dates both the "Kingdom of Israel" and the "Land of Palestine", but to say that "Palestine" existed only after 1917 is as silly as saying that "Israel" existed only after 1948 :mark:

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Originally Posted by Rani

Even the palestinians themselves don't consider themselves descendents of the philistines. Just like australians don't consider themselves austrians just because their names have a similar ring to them.

The philistines spoke an ancient indo-european language that has nothing to do with arabic. They are related to the greek mycenaeans. Sorry but I don't see any resemblence between palestinian arabs and greeks.

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The Philistines according to the Torah are descendants of Ham.

The Palestinians are Arabs, therefore they are descendants of Ishmael, Abraham and ultimately Shem; therefore like the Jews are Semitic.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Well, I think the "Land of Canaan" pre-dates both the "Kingdom of Israel" and the "Land of Palestine", but to say that "Palestine" existed only after 1917 is as silly as saying that "Israel" existed only after 1948 :mark:

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Well, I never said that. I said the name Palestine has only been used widely since the brits occupied here in 1917.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Well, I never said that. I said the name Palestine has only been used widely since the brits occupied here in 1917.

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Speaking of the Brits, it was they, after careful study, declared they could determine no sense or signs of Palestinian unity or national identity that would be a problem with the creation of Israel.

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Originally Posted by Rani

BTW I know exactly where lapland is.

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Didn't seem that way. We were talking about peninsulas. Lapland isn't a peninsula. Scandinavian Peninsula is a peninsula, just like Arabian Peninsula is a peninsula. Lapland is part of the Scandinavian Peninsula, not the other way around. Your analogy was faulty.