Ferrari/McLaren Espionage Story [merged]

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Originally Posted by wmcot

I'm really looking forward to tomorrow (or is it next Tuesday?) so we can get some real insight into this matter. It's interesting that Coughlan and "another" person were listed on the complaint. Who is this "other" person? Hopefully we'll find out tomorrow.

Personally, I think this whole thing was created by Jeremy Clarkson!!!!

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not clarkson!!!!.....that overgrown oaf only knows how to smash up caravans and chuck cars over cliffs or other such purile idiot pranks!!!!...hes a mess!!!.......if brains were dynamite he wouldn`t be able to blow his hat off!!!! :)

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Originally Posted by Racehound

when the ferarri mechanics saw it they rolled up 500 lire notes and started sniffing away!!!!!!....he he he

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I thought they were 50 euro notes :p :

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Originally Posted by Gannex

You refer, 555, to the doctrine of "respondeat superior" which holds that in certain cases the boss must answer for the screw-ups of his employee. But the doctrine is inapplicable where, as in this case, the employee is acting outside the legitimate scope of his authority. Robers v. Town of Black Mountain, 224 N.C. 119.

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Hope you haven't charged on a no win/no fee basis, because there is one major and fatal error in your case......

United States law does not apply in this case, whereas United Kingdom law does....to which I would like to draw the attention of the judge to The Queen vs Railtrack, 2002.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

I thought they were 50 euro notes :p :

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oh yes...i forgot about us now living in the United States of Europe!!!!....its all euros now aint it!!!!............anyway......the "mysterious powder" is gonna turn out to be flour!!!!!.....if stepney was allegedly trying to sabotage their cars it would surely only have been thru trying to clog up the fuel lines or pump.........a simple sabotage procedure that requires no major expense to rectify should it be discovered.....i mean.if hed stuck a few ball-bearings inside the engine he woulda had a big bill for the replacement motors had he been found out!!!!.......quite a few euros i suspect!!! :)

Nigel Stepney:

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"I'm ready to speak to Jean Todt and to president Montezemolo. I want to clear my position with Ferrari; I want to let everyone understand it's nothing to do with me. And I want to reveal some names of people inside Ferrari who had more interest than myself in doing what I'm unfairly accused of. I have nothing against the team and I could never have done such things. I repeat: it's a conspiracy."

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60886

Also, according to FIA steward Joaquin Verdegay:

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"...if Ferrari have reached an agreement with Coughlan, it's because they think McLaren did not use that information in their car."

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60887

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Originally Posted by Racehound

oh yes...i forgot about us now living in the United States of Europe!!!!....its all euros now aint it!!!!............anyway......the "mysterious powder" is gonna turn out to be flour!!!!!.....if stepney was allegedly trying to sabotage their cars it would surely only have been thru trying to clog up the fuel lines or pump.........a simple sabotage procedure that requires no major expense to rectify should it be discovered.....i mean.if hed stuck a few ball-bearings inside the engine he woulda had a big bill for the replacement motors had he been found out!!!!.......quite a few euros i suspect!!! :)

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Or castor(castrol) sugar :p :

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Nigel Stepney:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60886

Also, according to FIA steward Joaquin Verdegay:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60887

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I was right :) I was right all along - it was Elvis!! :D

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Nigel Stepney:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60886

Also, according to FIA steward Joaquin Verdegay:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60887

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now we're starting to get to the nitty gritty.

from what is being reported, it looks like McLaren are, as they have claimed all along, innocent in this matter and Ferrari have accepted it was a rougue individual.

I say "appears" but hopefully this will be confirmed soon.

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

now we're starting to get to the nitty gritty.

from what is being reported, it looks like McLaren are, as they have claimed all along, innocent in this matter and Ferrari have accepted it was a rougue individual.

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Nitty Gritty? You must be joking.

I hope that for both Stepney & Mclaren's sake they have better defenses than that, because if that's the best they can come up with they are in trouble.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Nitty Gritty? You must be joking.

I hope that for both Stepney & Mclaren's sake they have better defenses than that, because if that's the best they can come up with they are in trouble.

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well, if Ferrari believe that they had nothing to do with it and a representitve of the FIA giving pre-disclosure that it looks like they are in the clear, then would McLaren have to put up a defence to NO CASE TO ANSWER.