Sorry to challenge the "facts" of that, but it was post #9 in this thread before you had the first defense of the right to bear arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Capps
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Sorry to challenge the "facts" of that, but it was post #9 in this thread before you had the first defense of the right to bear arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Capps
Post 9 of over 500........Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Perspective is a little fuzzy too I fear.
That it took all of NINE (9) posts for the whining to begin by the gun nuts....Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Try bringing up passing government laws affecting religion and see how long it takes.
Not all of them were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
I got through 14 pages of this before skipping up here to the front of the queue. It's too bad that discussion here quickly deteriorated into attacks on American gun culture, then American culture in general, the "you people this" and "you people that," and, finally, the personal attacks--now going both ways--our own little metaphorical gun battle. No casualties, of course, but in some ways worse.
The issues surrounding the Connecticut massacre are mult-faceted, and many here are guilty of oversimplifying what is a complicated problem, too complicated to be approached with sweeping generalizations, cherry-picked data, and slippery slope logic.
Moreover, little or nothing can be solved by being rude. An argument, in the best academic sense (and this is an academic argument), is to broaden a topic, not narrow it--to develop respect for a position rather than defeat it. And some of us break rule #1 when arguing: establishing your credibility, not by simply being informed, but by being cordial, too. You may have terrific ideas but if you are rude, few will care.
Signed,
a non gun-owning American (but I'm 1/4 Filipino--mom came over on a boat in '52), who teaches in a high school (so this tragedy hits close to home), who wants a gun (the wifey isn't quite there yet), but also thinks stricter regulations on gun ownership is a wise concession
What, before someone is shot?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigelred5
Hi keysersoze :)Quote:
Originally Posted by keysersoze
I'm curious, do you wish to own a gun because of what has happened and you would be willing to take it to school if allowed?
Less than 9 posts for the "whiners" to surface. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Gun ownership has been a heated topic of discussion between my wife and I for a couple of months now, before all this transpired. My brother has a veritable arsenal--a Glock 19, two Kel-tec Sub2000s, and about 3-4 others. He took a 5-day shooting course and has a permit to carry. He's over-the-top, but even my 70 year-old mother has three handguns and a shotgun.Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
If I was approached my administration I would be interested in carrying a handgun at my school, with proper training, of course. I recognize that the possibility of an attack is remote, but we are vulnerable. Our school is a private one, but not in the best area of town. We have one armed security person on campus, and for many buildings one needs a swipe card to enter. On the other hand, the door to my classroom has a big window, opens inward and, therefore, cannot be barricaded. We have lockdown procedures but have never drilled it.
All I really want is a 9mm semi-automatic with a small-ish clip, 10 shots or so, enough to protect my wife and I in our home.