Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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Originally Posted by truefan72

strong comeback ioan...strong

perhaps you should sit this year out since it gets rather tiresome, 5 races into the year listening to continued complaints about kers, drs, tires and yet still posting blow by blow race analysis in the wrong thread. Perhaps if Massa was leading the WDC instead, you would be heaping praise on systems, or better yet, spend less time fixated on it.

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I highly enjoy watching Vettel driving, especially because he has no KERS most of the time and he rarely is allowed to use DRS, and still winning! :D
Why should I not criticize the gimmicks that took racing away and replaced it with an artificial show?!

PS: Massa should have left Ferrari last summer after the German GP and he would be doing much better, but each to his own.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I highly enjoy watching Vettel driving, especially because he has no KERS most of the time and he rarely is allowed to use DRS, and still winning! :D
Why should I not criticize the gimmicks that took racing away and replaced it with an artificial show?!

PS: Massa should have left Ferrari last summer after the German GP and he would be doing much better, but each to his own.

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Do you think Massa will leave or be forced to leave Ferrari next year.

I was just wondering what the options in terms of teams for next year for Massa would be.

Renault? or Sauber? If Perez moves on up.

An interesting topic but one for the Massa thread, not this one.

Sorry I went off topic.

Back to DRS.

I am still not sure about DRS even after these races.

In China and Turkey I thought it made it too easy.

Now in Spain it didn't look so bad, and its not going to do anything in Monaco.

Overall I still think I would prefer F1 without DRS, but until they tackle the real issues in inability to follow other cars closely.

Sure. But I see DRS as bridging the gap between the distance the cars have to keep due to 'dirty air' and where they would be if they could follow closely.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Sure. But I see DRS as bridging the gap between the distance the cars have to keep due to 'dirty air' and where they would be if they could follow closely.

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If the gap under which they are allowed to turn it on would be 0.5 seconds I would maybe agree, however 1 second is way too much.
They can easily follow each other down to 0.4 seconds gaps which means that the DRS activation gap is way to high and the advantage given to the driver behind is not only for overcoming the turbulence.

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Originally Posted by ioan

If the gap under which they are allowed to turn it on would be 0.5 seconds I would maybe agree, however 1 second is way too much.
They can easily follow each other down to 0.4 seconds gaps which means that the DRS activation gap is way to high and the advantage given to the driver behind is not only for overcoming the turbulence.

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??????

So it a gimmick and produces fake racing at 1 sec, but half the gap and you're on board?

Plus, I've never heard any driver say, 'well I got within 4 tenths and then I hit the dirty air', it's always been around the 1 second mark.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

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So it a gimmick and produces fake racing at 1 sec, but half the gap and you're on board?

Plus, I've never heard any driver say, 'well I got within 4 tenths and then I hit the dirty air', it's always been around the 1 second mark.

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What part of 'maybe I would agree' with Mark didn't you get?

And if it has always been the around the 1 second mark, how do you explain that they were/are often following each other at 0.4 seconds difference around the track? :crazy:

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Originally Posted by ioan

What part of 'maybe I would agree' with Mark didn't you get?

And if it has always been the around the 1 second mark, how do you explain that they were/are often following each other at 0.4 seconds difference around the track? :crazy:

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Maybe. Definition: used to indicate that something is possible or that something might be true.

I understand just fine ta, you're the one who doesn't seem certain of his opinion. I was trying to clarify what you were saying. As I've not got any closer to understanding your POV, perhaps you can explain?

As to the dirty air question, I'm surprised you are even asking! Even if you have never driven a winged racing car, it is obvious that you don't just hit a solid wall of disturbed air, the effects build the closer you get. It is accepted that an F1 car starts to be adversely affected at around 1 second behind. The closer you get the more you suffer. It's simple really.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Exactly. Watching a driver who is clearly a good deal quicker than the one in front struggle to get past isn't my idea of fun.

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There's a procession and there's defensive driving. The former as witnessed in Abu Dhabi last year shows there is something inherently wrong with F1 and the latter is equally thrilling than overtaking.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I fail to see where this "manufactured" or "artificial" tag is coming from. Five races in, and the best drivers and teams are coming to the fore. To me, artifical would be something like reverse grids or ballast where we see Force India or Toro Rosso winning races simply because they are handed an advantage.

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Completely agree but Martin Brundle at the Turkish GP made a number of references to Webber commenting that he felt the overtakes were cheapened and felt little satisfaction when he overtook Alonso in China.

At the Malaysian GP Brundle in his deadpan way felt Webber went easily round Massa at the first corner.

Overtaking in F1 should be rewarding.

I feel that the changes have been far too radical. It's should be one or the other, preferably keeping the softer tyres and see how the racing progresses then, if need be, work on revising KERS.