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Rowan Atkinson will be fast! It's strange that he has never been on before.
Nope but I've driven an early 90s Toyota MR2 in a wet, empty car park :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Remember when Jacques Villeneuve used to have massive shunts at Eau Rouge in qualy and came out smiling, just because he wanted to prove to Jock Clear et al that he could take the corner flat out.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
But is racing is different to car ownership. The relationship between man and machine is different to racing, is it not? Even Jason Plato (BTCC) and Tiff Needel (ex racer - F1 reject, endurance racer) looked down on the McLaren.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
For mere mortals there's the thrill factor when you need a change of underwear. Those with sense want to understand how 'tame' the car via tuition or practice in the right circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Like I said, "real" racing drivers. :p Besides that might be the one of the reasons why Villeneuve isn't in F1 right now. Also, I don't get how that is relevant. That wasn't a guy being passionate about his car, that was his freakin huge ego costing his team money and inconvenience.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Like I said in my earlier post, regular folks like us would never be able to get a supercar to the limit on normal roads to know the difference, EVER. That MAY BE possible at a track day, but they'd be afraid to wreck it. Probably only the folks who have money to throw, like millionaires or billionaires, would do it. So, we're really talking about a really small group here. Also, not all billionaires t necessarily have to be good drivers. There are also morons.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
At one of the tracks in India where I took part in the national karting championship, Mr. Vijay Mallya was the guest of honor. Before the race he uncovered his brand spanking new Porsche Carrera GT, wore an Arai helmet, squeezed his fat ass into Alpinestars racing overalls, got buckled up and everything, wanted to showboat, there was applause when he started the engine, he accelerated and then drove it straight into the wall wrecking the half a million dollar supercar.
Clarkson, Plato and Needell can all say what they want to, I still am free to make up my mind. Probably Mclaren didn't pay them enough marketing money. :p And I would still prefer the Mclaren because of the way it looks, sounds and what was said about it. A sweet handling supercar is my dream car, but well, us mere mortals can only dream. :D If you've ever struggled with an ill handling car during a race, you'd know what I'm talking about. And mind you, the Mclaren at full throttle would also need 'taming'. It's not like the car suddenly has 200% grip and you just turn at 200 mph without braking. But the best part about that car is you would have full confidence going into a corner, because you know exactly what the car is capable of. I have never met anybody in my life who just "loves" catching understeer or oversteer.
Fair enough, cars are subjective thing after all.
Judging the quality of car journalism surely it reflects on the majority of readership/viewers and potential owners that having a car that's quick and easy to drive just isn't enough.
One thing I will agree on is Viijay Mallya. Around the same time he brought out Spyker he used to drive round Northampton in his Ferrari 430 and revving the thing in stop/start traffic. 2@-ish behaviour but difficult not to enjoy NA Fezza!
Mallya is a freakin showboat, and a crazy party freak as can be seen from his lavish parties in India and the yearly bash at Monaco on his yacht. Although, if I was a billionaire like him, I'd party hard too. :D One thing you've got to admire is his taste in cars. Saw him drive a bloody Jaguar XJR-15 and a Porsche Spyder 550 among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Thought last sundays episode was really good as it was actually about cars! Love it when they do stuff like buy second hand cars for the price of a new car, not that i would go out and buy a V12 lol
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonPotato
I never buy new cars as you get sooo much more for your money with a 50k mile luxury car as opposed to some new model.
Motorbikes are different though. Always like to own them from new :D
As an example, a 1.4 Ford Fusion is £14.5k.
For 2 grand less, you can have a fully loaded 09 CLK with 50k on the clock. I know which will be worth more in 3 years time.
2009 MERCEDES-BENZ CLK 2100 cc 220 CDi Avantgarde 2dr Tip Auto
(Did a quick check. 3 year old Fordsstart at £4k while 5 year old CLK's start at £7.5k)
Running costs of a Merc will be astronomical though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1
I think buying a new car only works if you're going to keep it forever, otherwise you're merely paying the depreciation so someone else can have a nice car.
I just wouldn't go near a new car, i don't see the point. I would rather spend under 10k on and older car and do something with it. I am only 20 but i will get one of these when i can afford to insure them. May sound strange but give me one of these over a Lambo/Ferrari any day!
MERCEDES-BENZ 190E 2.3 16 COSWORTH
1994 BMW M5 e34