18 entries! well done peoples..
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18 entries! well done peoples..
Yep guys that's fantastic to see well done.
And I have beaten Marcel before. I think... :D
OOPS! Sorr to not have given you credit, Will :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by UKOG~Will
no problems :P
sorry for the delay guys all things should be sorted now hopefully
my results couldn't be read as i'm using vista and jso isn't
was great rally tho really enjoyed it
thanks steve!
results in a few minutes!
maybe a bit more :p :
But it will be with stage-by-stage results, I promise!
I'll be here when they're posted...see how rubbish I did :O ;)
Cheers to Marcel for developing the program to make it easier!Quote:
Originally Posted by jso1985
:up: :up: :beer:
Yep nice one Marcel. :)
WARNING!: Posts below this one might be spoilers, don't look at them if you don't want to know the final result yet
Resulst now available at:http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmr2wc/files/
*Will's times yet to be official.
Final results and standings to be published here in a moment
Huge thanks again to Marcel Haenen for all the help. :up:
Thanks for participating! see you in Sweden!Code:1.- Marcel Haenen ML Motorsports Citroën 47:20,97
2.- Will Subaru World Rally Team 49:09,57*
3.- Juha Suzuki Motorsport 50:36,73
4.- I Am Evil Homer Citroën Sport 50:46,93
5.- J.Lindstroem Frozz Motors Europe 51:27,09
6.- Zes Peugeot Sport Finland 52:00,98
7.- Tannat Suzuki Motorsport 52:21,14
8.- JTLarsen Two Basses Team Ford Europe 52:28,83
9.- Ramore Subaru World Rally Team 52:36,00
10.- NOR Two Basses Team Ford Europe 52:42,71
11.- Jso1985 Citroën Sport 52:44,40
12.- Steve0302 ARB Racers 53:51,17
13.- Rat Red Bull Toyota 55:12,61
14.- Magnus Curtans RallyBase Motorsports 56:48,81
15.- Kabouter Curtans RallyBase Motorsports 56:58,23
16.- Tuomo Peugeot Sport Finland 57:21,15
17.- Pawprint Red Bull Toyota 57:52,13
18.- Frozzy Frozz Motors Europe 59:18,05
* Will's times yet to be official
Drivers Standings:
1.- Marcel Haenen 10 points
2.- Will 8
3.- Juha 6
4.- I Am Evil Homer 5
5.- J.Lindstroem 4
6.- Zes 3
7.- Tannat 2
8.- JTLarsen 1
Teams Standings:
1.- ML Motorsports Citroën 10 points
2.- Suzuki Motorsport 8
2.- Subaru World Rally Team 8
4.- Citroën Sport 5
5.- Frozz Motors Europe 4
6.- Peugeot Sport Finland 3
7.- Two Basses Team Ford Europe 1
I'm happy with that fifth place, never thought that I would be faster on the taqr than on the snow though.. Interesting! Lets get ready for Sweden in a weeks time!
that's good 2 see! 18 entries and different teams. Keep it up. Well done!
Rat, Will, coming to the pub? :beer:
**** Kabouter! Curtans Rallybase Motorsport actually did not finish last!!! This calls for a celebration!
It is also very impressive that we are so evenly matched, ten seconds only!
So: 14 and 15 and not finishing last. Where can we go from here? Is there any more achievements to be done in the world of rallying?
I would also like to thank Kabouter for a very fine cooperation within Curtans Rallybase Motorsport!
To the rest of you: it has been a pleasure to compete with you on this event, and we are looking forward to more barely controled slides and strange offs. Nice weekend to yall!
:D
I'm certainly going to the pub, as long as I don't have to see more snow :p
Same - any advance on those stage by stage times?
Can I ask why my times are currently unofficial? Did I do something wrong?
Cheers jso all understood. PM sent
what do you mean? they're already available as posted aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by Pawprint
Wow, podium finish, nice. :D Well done Marcel!
Apart from sending times that are impossible, no. I've compared your times with those on http://www.hotlaps.de and came up with this:Quote:
Originally Posted by UKOG~Will
1: 2 seconds slower than world record in 205 T16
2: 13 seconds slow then unchecked time, but still 7 faster then anyone else
3: you've just set a world record, congrats...
4: as fast as the fastest official time
5: see above
6: five seconds faster the best official time
7: new world record, by 7 seconds!
8: another one; by 6 seconds this time
9: close to the record
Looking at the codemaster's site, you total time is also a new record
You get my point? I'm appealing against the official results because this is just unreal. :rolleyes:
now than an official appeal has been done, I'll contact two drivers that won't be afected with any change on Will's times, and the three of us will decide what to do.
were the stage times on the link? Because I just get redirected to something requiring a login or something.
Also, why are you questioning Will's times, and not Marcel's? Surely the driver finnishing first would have been faster?
Because my times for the snow stages were out of the ordinary. I don't know how I can prove my times, or make any person believe I went that fast. I'm absolutely sure I put wet tarmacs on and reversed the stages. 100% sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawprint
I was suprised with my times...I was breaking PB's in the wet tarmacs over the snow records...
I've offered to Javier that I do the rally again by this evening, with photo evidence. I'll even stick it up. :rolleyes:
But really if you don't agree or think my times are legit....then I'll do the event again if you like, or give me time penalties or notional times or just disqualify me... :(
Will, take a look in the "Cheats" section of your game to see if you turned on "Aggressive cars" by accident!?
to Will
Are you allways so fast on snow rallies? In ordinary conditions (right tyres, non mirror mode) ? Maybe is something wrong in your instalation (cheat settings). Try to reinstall the game and run ordinary Sweden Rally.
That is the Yahoo group that serve as the official homepage of this championship, you have to sign up and log in to download files (timecards, stage by stage results, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawprint
I love snow stages. I always feel fast and confident there if that's any consellation :pQuote:
Originally Posted by NOR
WHERE IS CYBORG_HUN?
Happy with 7th on this demanding rally....
Bit disappointed with our day 1 performance-off the pace, but we kept our head on day 2 and it made the difference...
Notes:
REALLY good drive teammate :up: I hereb annoint you as Suzuki Driver #1 :D
I was chagrined to finish behind the organizer on tarmac for day 1 :p
Not much to pick and choose from 7th-11th-really could have gone to an of the group...
It won't make a difference. You shakedown time was impossibly fast too, yet you had "proof" for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by UKOG~Will
You can say whatever you want, but I'm finding it very hard to believe that you have beaten those record times. They have been set after practising for hours in the 205, the nearest WRC times are more than 10 seconds away. But suddenly, you happen to be the only one in the world to go 10 seconds faster in a WRC. Why hasn't anyone else gone so fast? If it really is possible?
The only proof I accept, is a video. You can create fake time-screenshots with a bit of photoshop handywork, but you can't fake a video.
It is difficult when situations like this arise; what if Will was that fast? Guess we just have to trust him...? Or...?
questions for Will: are you a PC guy? Joystick?
He's on pc, he posted a screenshot of his shakedown and that couldn't have been on playstation.
I think this suggestion is a good one...If there is a cheat related install issue running the non-mirrored Sweden on wet tarmacs should remove that variableQuote:
Originally Posted by NOR
I don't doubt you were on the correct tires, or that you did the rally in mirrored mode, Will. But your times are significantly faster than everyone else (on the order of three standard deviations).
Go look at the CMR2 WRC archives, examine all the past years and put your self in our shoes-understand the expressed doubts and perhaps help us find a way to either validate your times or put them in perspective via an alternative rally format
I will withdraw from the event. I've read the times on the cmr2 page, and I realize why you are curious, or maybe suspicious about my times.
I could do a video of one stage if you like, as my camera only has 3 minutes of video availiable on the memory card...
But I don't want to be the person who brings a brilliant competition into dispute because of my times. I don't understand either since reading them on the yahoo group.
At the end of the day it might turn out I wrote them down wrong or typed in the wrong times on the Excel sheet.
So I will retire from the Monte Carlo rally. I will provide photo evidence of my times for Sweden if asked to. Many apologies for the inconvienience.
Martin Frosdick lead driver of Frozz Motors Europe releases new comments on Monte Carlo
"we are dissapointed with our results the individual stage times were ok but the over all time and position is disheartening for us we were battling with mechanical problems and that probably why. But hey next event in sweden hopefully we'll put in a better performance"
[quote="Magnus"]
As it turns out, since Will has decided to retire, there is more achievements to be done in the world of rallying!!!
13th and 14th for Curtans Rallybase Motorsports. I would suggest you other guys to also consider withdrawal, who knows where we can end up then!
:D
Will >> You have taken it like a true sportsman!!
I am confident that everybody want to see you continue to compete in this championship!
Ok, I also think the right thing to do is just to withdraw from the event. Obviously your times are very fast, but may be you are just fast, nobody can say for sure. I personally do not believe you cheated or something, just because there is no point in doing that. Anyways, to keep the competition sweet this is the best thing to do. Subaru WRT is supporting you 100%.
I have re-uploaded my tributesite to this championship:
http://jtl-media.com/rally/cmr2wc.html