Phew! It's over. Now lets see who they're up against next week. Good play by Fiji. I'm almost sad to see them lose.
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Phew! It's over. Now lets see who they're up against next week. Good play by Fiji. I'm almost sad to see them lose.
Fiji played very well against Wales.
One thing about this world cup, there aint no easy games left in the RWC. I sure learned that lesson a few weeks ago.
I can understand why you're tense & nervous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I f there's any justice the IRB will wake up and give Fiji and the rest more money to develop the undoubted talent they have. And as for Argentina, surely the time has come to go in either 6/Tri Nations. Rugby deserves more competition if it wishes to be a truly world game, which is what we want.
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Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Indeed. Regarding Argentina, it will be hard for the organizers of 6/Tri Nations to explain why a team that - as of today - finished ahead of at least 2 out of 3 (Tri Nations) and 4 out of 6 (6 Nations, having defeated 3 of those teams) is not included in either cup.
The 6 Nations needs to be bolstered with good teams. Aprt from the two wins by France & England, the RWC has not been a good world cup for the home nations.
I just noticed, and I find it interesting: the four semifinalist teams come from just two pools (A and D). This means that there is a 50% chance that the final will be a re-match.
If the final is a rematch, I don't think the pool results will be repeated.
Just thought I'd pop in to congratulate English Rugby fans on their gutsy win :up:
Congrats and best of luck for the Finals :up:
I don't in the slightest.Quote:
Originally Posted by cossie16
Australians are bitter about the 2003 World Cup final and probably about this 12-10 loss to England (at least the newspaper were quite scathing) but they've either forgotten or been ignorant of the fact that in order to force a penalty or conceed one in the first place requires a lot more than one person.
The English forward pack pummelled the Australians into mistakes and within striking distance. The thing about Rubgy as opposed to Rugby League is that you can develop different sets of tactics because there is more than one principle method of scoring. It's akin to the NFL in that respect.
Australian crowds are largely used to seeing Rugby League which produces a different set of tactics, and then complain when something else is used.
The two codes are DIFFERENT.
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Originally Posted by Rollo
Ummm, can you tell me where I mentioned anything about rugby league?
In the part where you mentioned Catamarans, the Irish Potato Famine of 1845, the benefits of using 2 Pack Enamel as opposed to Acrylic and the specific constitutional dilemmae of the Telecommunications Act (Cwlth 1997). It was truly a brilliant post and had me thinking for some time. In fact I had to go and consult a full High Court Bench over a a glass of Indian Tonic Water and Tanquaray. :D
Should I tabulate non-specific comments with some sort of tag in the future?
Well generally when you quote from someones post one would assume that you are replying to that particular post and not making generalised comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Thanks son :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaws
Now get on with your homework :mad:
What a weekend at the RWC : up: :s hock:
Good to see so many upsets this RWC. Shows that the stronger nations are losing dominance over the smaller nations. Bring on RWC 2011 :)
I really feel that Argentina need to become part of the Tri Nations. It's not fair that they are not as they have proved they are good enough for the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinchote
It would be more of an issue with the 6 nations. We would love them here but geographically, it's very different whereas the Tri has always been a Geographically seperated competition.
Well done to England. A great, gutsy victory well deserved. Perhaps they are finding their form at last. With the talent, it just took a lot of time to gell.
You have to feel a bit sorry for the Kiwi's. By the time they had lost, the Aussies had booked all thge cheap plane tickets back to the Southern Hemisphere :D
*snigger* :laugh: I bet there are a lot of disappointed Kiwi's in France with tickets for the final ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
I still don't think the English performance was that confidence inspiring. Not like the French one. I am hoping though the Boks have played their one bad game and from now on they stay in top gear :)
Most of the Argentinians play in France, the 6 Nations would be a more logical competition for them to join.
They could make a few divisions of international competition with the ^nations and have promotion/relegation between the divisions.
It is a bit fragmented at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SOD
You have Canada, USA and the Pumas, Aus, NZ and SA and the 6.5 nations (a couple of others are starting to emerge as possible contenders)
We have seen the leaps that Italy have made since joining an annual competition and I feel that Argintina deserve the same. Problem is that anyone in Europe can go to a 6 nations game whereas who from the home nations would go to Argentina for a weekend?
I had a look on BA for Feb and you would have to leave Thursday to arrive Friday come back Sunday to arrive Monday and spend about 30 hours in the Air and pay a £1000. All that for 2 days in Argentina and the same for fans coming over here.
I find the best thing to do with that sort of situation is to play a holiday around it. I flew all the way from Australia to London and then to Helsinki for the 3 days of the rally but made a point of spending an extra couple of days there and a week in the UK as well. Made it much more worthwhile than spending £1000 just to get to an event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
I saw the argument where Argentina could play the games in Spain.
The other solution is to hold a Rugby World Cup every 2 years.
They played ok. Was a bit of a scrappy match, one of the most frustrating I have seen. I really think Aus played like the tired old side it is. Will be good if they clear out some dead wood. Especially Gregan. Might be nice if they could form a scrum too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian McC
England should learn how to score tries.
I think it certainly would be good to have it more often. It seems like a lot of time since then and with a sport that isn't played as widely as football it does seem like Rugby disappears into a black hole in regards to large tournaments. Sure you've got the 6 nations and tri-nations but at the end of the day there is no Euro 2000 that can get people's attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by SOD
Yes it's a long time since Australia have been a team to be feared. I get laughed at when I say that Wilkinson is the English team but you have to agree that the rest of the team was lacklustre and other than defending they didn't do that much really. Just got penalties for Wilkinson to kick.Quote:
Originally Posted by rah
There's also the summer tours and the autumn tours, but getting to play SA, Aussies & the Kiwis in a winner takes all situation only happens once evey 4 years. Having that every two years is better for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I understand that argument, but I don't think it's that straightforward. Question: how many people travel from UK to Italy for 6 nations matches? At what cost? I don't think the difference is that much with a trip to Argentina, unless you consider driving (and that case at least the time invested will be the same); and then Argentina is way cheaper than Italy when you are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
In any case, you have tv these days, so it's not that half the stadium will be filled with fans from the other team. If you consider the distances between the tri-nations teams, the "fans have to travel" argument weakens a little.
I think there are arguments that could be used to favour Argentina in each of the tournaments. It is in the Southern hemisphere, so in this aspect the Tri is more reasonable (and with the different seasons, it might even not interfere with the European season where many players play). On the other hand, as was said, many Argentinean players play in France these days, so they are already there. And regarding the fans, it is cheaper to go from Argentina to Eruope than it is to go to Australia/NZ.
You get a few thousand fans that travel to Italy for the games. It can bee a long weekend break leaving on Friday, coming back on Monday and only cost a couple of hundred quid each for flights.
I do take your point though about TV. That's where I follow Rugby :D
Someone suggested holding Argentinian matches in somewhere like Spain. This would be a superb idea as not only would it allow the Pumas to participate but would generate even more exposure in Spain and Portugal.
As for a RWC every 2 years, I cannot see it working. You have qualifying, structure, tours and domestic comps to get around before you kick a ball. 4 years is fine.
True. Hadn't thought about qualifying and so on. Perhaps 3 years would be better? I think if Argentina were to play some games in Spain on "home" turf at least some of the matches should be played in Argentina. Say 50% of their home games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
I don't think it would be a big issue for Argentina to play host at Spain. Also, with the level of professionalism in Rugby these days, I don't think travelling should be much of an issue. It may change things a little for the fans, though, and I'm ignorant regarding this: what would be the number of fans travelling to all the games of their team?
Just as I finished the previous post, I read in the Argentinean news that the IRB president said that Argentina is close to being admitted to the Tri-Nation.
I think that would be a much better fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinchote
The six nations is in danger of getting overcrowded and the geographical spread of the Tri is more suitable.
There could almost be a case to rename it the Southern tournament with the 6 becoming the Nothern with a play off against the respective winners for the Nations Trophy. That would be worth making a holiday around.
The prima donnas are due back in NZ Wed - with their tutus in tatters. According to the media the All Black's exit from the world up has plunged the whole country into mourning (rubbish!), domestic violence will increase (probably true), the economy will slump (?) and apparently the ref has received death threats. The post mortem will go on and on. The so called "culture" that surrounds the All Blacks does nothing to encourage a non fan like myself from ever watching a game.
oops - should be world "cup". and "to" ever watch a game
I understand that the All Blacks are thinking of starting a lingerie line. They've already designed a bra in their name, lots of support but no cups :p :
Yeah, we choke in cricket, they choke in rugby :(Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlMetro
How does a Bra have support without having cups? :p I don't geddit :pQuote:
Originally Posted by CarlMetro
http://www.coco-de-mer-shop.co.uk/im...d_thu_6010.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Well, you did ask. :devil:
I stand corrected :cheese:
So much for the level of this thread :rolleyes:
;) :D
you have so much to learn, oh young one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel