Who will drive at McLaren next year?

There is the talk also that there is indication RD gave green light of indication for FA going elsewhere end of this season. The high budgeted team Toyota has revealed their interest in the spaniard with sweet number of money once the reigning champion is free on the market.

With Alonso there how good prospect of Toyota will be?
Considering a toyota powered car Williams is only a gap behind Renault, there will be possibility they will challenge next season like Renault last year.

And how future of McLaren without Alonso is going to be?
Some have believed that improvement of McLaren was coupled with Alonso being there. They have already learned from his strategy and may have implemented it to Hamilton and therefore Alonso's move will not make them struggle as hard as seasons backwards.

above me, tell us how can you enjoy threesomes :D

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

There is the talk also that there is indication RD gave green light of indication for FA going elsewhere end of this season. The high budgeted team Toyota has revealed their interest in the spaniard with sweet number of money once the reigning champion is free on the market.

With Alonso there how good prospect of Toyota will be?
Considering a toyota powered car Williams is only a gap behind Renault, there will be possibility they will challenge next season like Renault last year.

And how future of McLaren without Alonso is going to be?
Some have believed that improvement of McLaren was coupled with Alonso being there. They have already learned from his strategy and may have implemented it to Hamilton and therefore Alonso's move will not make them struggle as hard as seasons backwards.

above me, tell us how can you enjoy threesomes :D

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I think the McLaren engineers would dispute Alonso's role in making the car faster. Hamilton is giving Alonso more than a run for his money in the same car. You could easily argue that Alonso was responsible for getting the most out of his car at Renault because Fisichella didn't seem to be able to find it.

McLaren will survive without Alonso if it comes to that. Toyota, as a prospect, sucks amd will continue to do so. If Alonso is thinking of retiring and wants to make a pile of money before he goes, then Toyota would be the place.

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

I think the McLaren engineers would dispute Alonso's role in making the car faster. Hamilton is giving Alonso more than a run for his money in the same car. You could easily argue that Alonso was responsible for getting the most out of his car at Renault because Fisichella didn't seem to be able to find it. McLaren will survive without Alonso if it comes to that

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We can't deny that Hamilton drive more than spectacular, but we have to note down that McLaren have struggled for many years before Alonso joined them, and Renault performs otherwise post Alonso left them. This is not only coincidence, at least they have possibility to back struggle if Alonso leaves. If they have ability to survive they might have absorbed all Alonso's input either on their car and strategy on winning each single race and the season.
Where he is to be next year will depend on which Mclaren on the top of others, if he must be the second to his teammate I can't blame him to leave McLaren.

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

Toyota, as a prospect, sucks amd will continue to do so. If Alonso is thinking of retiring and wants to make a pile of money before he goes, then Toyota would be the place.

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If we refer back to 2005 season of the best season of Toyota, they still have chance to get any better than current achievement, If I were Alonso I will take Toyota's offer and start working fresh as like he has developed Renault won two title from nothing.

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

We can't deny that Hamilton drive more than spectacular, but we have to note down that McLaren have struggled for many years before Alonso joined them, and Renault performs otherwise post Alonso left them. This is not only coincidence, at least they have possibility to back struggle if Alonso leaves. If they have ability to survive they might have absorbed all Alonso's input either on their car and strategy on winning each single race and the season.
Where he is to be next year will depend on which Mclaren on the top of others, if he must be the second to his teammate I can't blame him to leave McLaren.


If we refer back to 2005 season of the best season of Toyota, they still have chance to get any better than current achievement, If I were Alonso I will take Toyota's offer and start working fresh as like he has developed Renault won two title from nothing.

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McLaren engineers already had the car designed when Alonso got there so his input into the new car was minimal at best. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but for him to take credit for a winning car at McLaren is silly. I will be the first to admit that he can claim credit for being a big part of Renault's championships. If Renault had only Fisichella and a clone of Fisichella driving for them I doubt they would have either championship.

I hate to say this because I enjoy kicking Ralf around, but as long as Toyota continues to think, act, and manage like Toyota they don't stand a chance and it won't matter who is designing for them or driving for them. The celebrated Japanese Corporate Model doesn't apply to everything. Can you imagine what Williams, Jordan, or even Stoddard could do with Toyota's F1 budget? Toyota needs to hire some professional racing people, give them the checkbook, and shut up, go away, and leave them alone. Then they'll get the success they desire.

Who will drive a McLaren next year?

Well, if the FIA finds them guilty on new evidence on the 13th, no one. I wonder how much 'Yota, Honder or Red Bull would offer Lewis?

Alonso is beginning to look less and less likely by the hour.

forget the mind games!
part of being able to beat the other guy, is first accepting that he is good.
accepting that he may be better at some things than you are.
then find his weaknesses, and exploit them.
in alonso's current state of mind, he is seemingly unable to do this.

He is not Alonso if cannot read the weakness of each of his opponent which is unluckily also his teammate. There is no room for such teammate disobeying instruction from the team and doing the race as he likes vaguely define of being opportunist or chameleon.

Hamilton seems need more time to doing great in wet, where he was in Germany undesirably calling for stewards to be able to continue the race, and Alonso proved that he is master.
Unfortunately, there is not a lot of wet races this year as the lucky factor for Alonso to show his supremacy.

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

McLaren engineers already had the car designed when Alonso got there so his input into the new car was minimal at best. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but for him to take credit for a winning car at McLaren is silly.

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Don't be wrong, Alonso took the risk of joining McLaren when they were at worse for not winning even a single race of 2006, they were even worse than Honda because of their win in Hungary

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

Toyota needs to hire some professional racing people, give them the checkbook, and shut up, go away, and leave them alone. Then they'll get the success they desire.

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Hiring driver like Alonso would be the best part of having some professional racing people.

i don't think anyone can question alonso's driving ability: i think his main problem today is focus, concentration, etc etc...