Not ideal for Evans. If others puncture, Ogier would move up, Evans not
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Not ideal for Evans. If others puncture, Ogier would move up, Evans not
Kalle puncture.. Title slowly slipping into Ogier's hands.. Surely when it's all about luck
GG stopped?
GG stopped?
Edit: False flag.
Just watched the last stage and this is definitely what rallying should be doing. Our planet is stunning.
It isn't. It's tomorrow what will decide, points for overall results are pretty much done.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Exactly. Nothing isn’t decided yet
Old fox Tänak now even closer to young foxes. Gonna be interesting afternoon
Not completely sure of the focus for that message, but.. but.. but..Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Well, I'm not really a fan of the situation where there is no equal playing field for everyone. Yes, it is part of the rally one way or another, but at the moment, if you are in the road position in the first 3-4 cars, you basically have zero chances to do anything meaningful for the entire rally.
We are also watching the title contenders "fighting" for places like 7 to 10. What kind of message does it send? How to explain it, and is it attractive to potential new fans and audience?
Tänak started from 4th position and is currently fighting for the podium positions. At first I also thought that the last event should be less a lottery and more equal regarding the starting position, but my opinion is changing. If you are fighting for the championship and you know the last rally is full or surprises, then you have to keep that in mind and try to have a decent points advantage before this event.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
There is a big chance that one of the youngsters will have some kind of problem. Then Ogier moves up a place and Evans does not, because he is so far behind.. Ogier realistically being fifth (10 points) and Evans realistically being eight (4 points sounds like a big problem for Evans..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
So drivers DECIDE their points advantage? You have hundreds of different inputs in how to decide your season BEFORE going to the ultimate last round. I don´t buy your way of talking through the way things happen in SA.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Tanak started 4th yesterday and is in the race.
Ogier and Evans are far behind because they hold back, chase points and title, not victory.
Much more interesting rally for final than Japan..
You have to maybe drive e-sim race to have 100% equal conditions and they should concentrate more on driving than whining about places.
My statement was more about getting out of forests, particularly European, and rallying the world. It could have been clearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
But I think only esports can truly offer an equal playing field. It is what it is. I remember when each team had sweeper cars go through, maybe they could bring that back? I'm not fussed. We have a good situation.
I also don't see getting punctures as a game of luck, I see not getting them as a game of luck. If we drive like this on roads like these ordinarily - we deserve punctures. I think there is a greater problem with expectations on the sport, show and tyre products. Too easy now to take the fastest time and think that's how it should be done (sweeping aside), when that is probably how it shouldn't be done but they got lucky.
Title contenders being 7-10th? So what. Football leagues can be won with a final game loss, World Cups on penalties etc. I don't think it sends any message. It's easy to see the championship is 14 rallies not one; points are given to ~10 cars; and it's not head-to-head matchplay or like tennis where it's winner goes through or something.A lLot of gimmicks could be thought up in trying to achieve something that doesn't matter.
WRC is world championship. It should be hard for everyone everytime. And being fast, smart or consistent belongs beside that. Also a bit of luck, but tires can be destroyed sometimes by many impacts or just one. That's the part of sport because of the nature where this things run, everywhere and in every possible condition and weather. Maintaning and managing or choosing tires also play big part what your outcone of rally will be.
That's why sometimes (or many times) the title is decided by many of those factors and not just dominating stages, like we've been used with Loeb or Ogier before (or Kalle).
Obviously they can't decide how much points they have before the last event. The season just consists of 14 events and all the title contenders had a chance to give their best in the first 13 events. It is a long term strategy to win a championship and the title contenders have to give their best to have a reasonable advantage before this event. It is no reason to complain if they weren't able to do that. It is a world rally championship, that has to include different surfaces and road conditions. Monte is also a full lottery, where sometimes the first runner has ice on the road and for later runners it has already melted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Strategy but not deciding, I buy that. Still strategy can be blown out by two punctures instead of one... or none...Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
OK. At this point top 3 has understood, that win might be actually possible. And Tanak is also in fight and will push like crazy. So top 4 will tell at stage interviews, that they control the pace, but actually they all know, that they do not controll anything but are pushing way over the risk limit. I would say, that two cars out of top 4 wont make it to the end of this day. I personally hope, that Sesks will stay in fight, but to be honest he is the one who is most likely to do the mistake first. Fourmaux has a small adavatige, because he will be able to slow down after hearing or seeing competitor on the side of the road.
The sand just doesnt suit Evans so much. Same as Sardegna or Greece.
How did Katsuta get off these massive rocks.. unbelievable
Ogier FR puncture, but just at the end of stage
E: without red alert, it would have been unnoticed by regular eye..
Nothing bad
Barring problems, Tanak is going to catch and pass the top 3
Josh changing again
Ogier hunting ongoing...
Evans passed Munster easy enough.
Tanak stopped!
Seems like big off...
Edit: Maybe changing a tyre...?
Edit 2: Chaning tyre. Now moving again.
(Did Becs talk about big impact at first?)
Moving back forth on maps.. and splits not coming
Puncture
sums up his season
Glad that he wasn't in a title fight :D this would have been devastating.
Ogier benefits from Tanak time loss...
Service park is completely empty....
Go on Sesks !! :bounce:
Ott will stay ahead? No?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Now let's hope that Sesks keeps it all together and gets the win for himself and for M-Sport, probably earns a seat for the next year.
OMG ! Sesks for the win becomes more and more possible. Unbelieveble !!! Very happy for my countryman.
Yep 8s ahead still.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
This would be AWESOME! Rooting for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Negaiss
Crazy pace from Sesks, didn't expect that. He has to keep it on the road, though
Fourmaux is slow too. Overshoot.