I doubt that's the case. Safari, Acropolis and Sardegna are quite rough too. Cyprus is small market and I think rallying is not as popular there as in Estonia and Latvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
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I doubt that's the case. Safari, Acropolis and Sardegna are quite rough too. Cyprus is small market and I think rallying is not as popular there as in Estonia and Latvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
Which gravel rallies do they run this year? Hungary, Estonia, Sweden & Rally Silesia? yeah, and they used to have them before covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimitris
WRC Promoter and Cyprus Rally was planed to Organize ERC in 2024 and WRC 2025&2026 but the local Ministry of Finance decline to finance the events.
Silesia is asphalt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
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Originally Posted by RallyFan13
Do you have a source for this? I'd like to read more
This is from 2022 but it does refer to the situation: https://cyprus-mail.com/2022/07/21/l...-and-criminal/
Regarding the dispute: https://cyprus-mail.com/2022/10/09/f...-cyprus-rally/
and last but not least from last year: https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/09/19/c...ar-of-absence/
Same story but a year later…
But now with Saudi Arabia is difficult to add another one middle-east race.
Let me guess, the ex-minister of the CAA is of a right-leaning party, whilst the ruling party setting up the Federation is leaning left?
Good on them; rallying needs to attract proper commercial sponsorship - not handouts from government/local assemblies/ tourist boards. The hosting fee for a WRC round is ridiculously high for a currently lame series.Quote:
Originally Posted by RallyFan13
What...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Many WRC Rounds are funded this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
The Welsh government financed WRGB for years and now we dont have a UK round after they pulled the funding. Do you think this is good too ?
The same can be said about Corsica no? or was that just the FFSA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Governments around the world lining up to renew contracts or to grab a WRC event - but you know better?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Massive crowds pumping money in to the local economy.
Cry harder Britain.
How's your round of WEC in the UK going?
Everything is about money. Without government money, there are no events on this level. It is not only rally, but also other sports...
Also, the rest of life.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
There were events before governments started getting involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
By now it's just an auction and the highest bidders get an event. The FIA gets to charge such ridiculous amounts of money because some governments are desperate to get a rally. If all governments stopped pumping money into it, we would still have a comparable championship but the people in charge of the FIA wouldn't get as rich.
We don't need government money to have a rally, only to fill the pockets of greedy FIA people.
but is there any current round of wrc/erc that is not government money paying the fee?
some of rallies have a title sponsor, like vodafone and bauhaus. how is the split between government/private company?
If governments weren't creating government money, there'd be a new monetary system. Until that arrives it's pointless dragging up the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Sorry to deter the discussion back to the original topic but didn't they say they'd know the calendar by June, and then later said July?
They said the same last year and we ended up having it in October...
I think the last place on the calendar is between CER and Croatia (my own speculation)
Obviously everyone loves to kick the FIA for some reason, but you do realise that it is the WRC Promotors that get the fees and become rich. They are making as much money as they possibly can, it is a business to them, plus lots of them get paid to attend the events, travel around the world including possible candidate events, and have nice jollies on the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I'm sure the FIA make a lot of money out of it too. They're not a charity...Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
They would get money from Promoter, the Manufacturers, Events, competitors....
And who picks the promotor?Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
President of the Estonian Autosport Union Toivo Asmer, said this in the Delfi Rally Estonia magazine: "I believe that this year's ERC rally is quite a welcome break before the 2025 season and the subsequent WRC rallies. The organizers plan to do several things better again, and a little warm-up time will be very beneficial."
WRC set to expand to 14 rounds for 2025 campaign https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...aign/10631092/
Its a pity to see Croatia go, if true, it had become one of my favourite rallies on the calendar. Any idea if its expected to be back again soon?
what happened to my post, why did it disappear?
I can see that you have made post today at 8:24, but later it was deleted by you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I was trying to edit it, not sure how I got it deleted, thanks though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
are you on your phone, on the browser? that happens a lot haha it suxQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I was on my phone, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
When editing with phone, try chaning to ,,full site'' mode (at the bottom of the page) before editing. This should help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Shame about Croatia....
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...urn-next-year/ "The Tartu-based event has an agreement with WRC Promoter which means alternating between the two series. Latvia will take Estonia’s calendar slot next year."
From this I read that Latvia is not just one off and they will rotate with Estonia? Or did I understand wrong? Might it mean that Estonia is rotating and every two years some ERC event will get "a promotion"?
I think next year it will still be Estonia according to the beggining: "With his round of the European Rally Championship finishing yesterday, Rally Estonia director Urmo Aava is already looking forward to the event’s World Rally Championship return next year."Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Yes, next year is Estonia, this has been confirmed but what I meant is that does Estonia rotate with Latvia or some other ERC event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Here we're talking about events we'd like to see/comeback and what do you know it, Dirtfish has an article about it: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-w...t-new-zealand/
They've got a job to do, these topics will overlap and he has the latest details. No big scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
I didn't say it was lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan