Nothing is definite until the first car start driving...or at least until Wednesday before the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
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Nothing is definite until the first car start driving...or at least until Wednesday before the rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
If Hof-Finnskog looks like that in 2.5 weeks it won't run, ruts like that which froze was what made Lesjöfors not run in 2016
The swedish guy who posted it said it was only a short distance that looks like that. But indeed they need to level it with a tractor before it freezes... or hope for 15cm of snow.
Can the organisers get the more water trucks (than in 2016) out at the end of the recce, to put some ice on all the roads or is it more likely stages be cancelled like in 2016?
Currently the problem is not with water, but with temperature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humber
"Closest" to the border and should have snow is Røros, northern lights is sometimes visible there, Trysil for downhill skiing or Lillehammer and try the bobsleigh, I've only tried in summer and 3G's was enough for me, 5G's in winter I think!Quote:
Originally Posted by linni
https://twitter.com/SaariJarno/statu...30527724908545
According to this the decision is made next week
https://twitter.com/F_Gustavsson/sta...34258940071939
Tyre quotes could be increased
And finally my route preview, with some photos from the route gathered together
http://itgetsfasternow.com/2020/01/2...y-sweden-2020/
Yeah, I`m too old for 5G - s :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Was looking for more cultural events.
But thanks anyway.
Some 10 cm wet snow coming this Wednesday in Torsby area. After that several minusdegrees at nights as long as forecast stretches. Will make it possible to get a proper ice or frozen gravel/ice surface. Maybe not much of snowbanks...
I have booked and paid my trip 7 months ago...
Craig Breen in for Rally Sweden
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...01750213224200
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And not Mikkelsen, interesting.
Great news!Quote:
Originally Posted by DocMS
Perhaps still reserved for the satellite team?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Adamo based the decision on Breen's 2nd place here in 2018 with Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/u...020-0127-b.pdf
Official entry-list.
55 crews.
Historic entries are still open (23 crews now)
That's just a random explanation to justify a decision made on different grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Even if that's true its not random, its a fair reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Nope, it's a "reason" found afterwards to have something to put in the PR release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If you follow the "picks" he has made for last year they are not consistent at all.
- Breen over Paddon for Finland cause Breen was on podium 3 years before
- pick Breen over Mikkelsen for Australia, while Mikkelsen has 1st from 3 years before and an additional podium and Breen 7th as best
- now again pick Breen based on 2nd place 2 years ago, while Mikkelsen has 2nd, 2x 3rd and 2x 4th
Well, if the rumours at the time were true that Mikklesen got lawyers involved for Hyundai to honour his contract a year ago, I think Andreas has taken his foot off with a shotgun and won't be driving a Hyundai again any time soon.
Yet they dropped him for 4 rounds, so I guess the rumors were just that, rumors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Maybe, maybe not. If he did agree to be sidelined for the four rallies but got lawyers involved earlier in the year the damage is done, as it would look like he was driving for himself not the team. Whether he was persuaded otherwise for those four rallies, I can see Adamo as the sort of character that would not respond well to being undermined by his drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
i was thinking the same yesterday,and cant find any other reason except that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Neither can I Dimviii, as mknight points out his results haven't been that bad so can only assume he has rubbed Adamo up the wrong way
2nd in 2018 was a great result and this year he will have the good road position.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
What do you think the real reason is ?
Mikkelsen would have had same road position and has consistent good results from Sweden. (to be precise it's actually not sure starting late will be an advantage if there is little snow)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Real reason is he doesn't "trust" Mikkelsen. He said as much indirectly while in C. Clarks kitchen before rally GB.
Finally, we can speculate on the satellite team. The rules specified that the same driver may not drive in the satellite and the main team during one season. But will there be a satellite team at all? Maybe testing Pirelli gravel tyres in the European gravel rallies?
Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
Hyundai press release: "The team has been forced to postpone its planned pre-event test in Sweden, due to take place this week, because of a lack of snow and ice. A revised test is being considered for February 5-7 in the area close to the rally with all three crews."
Jocius not nominated for manufacturers points?
Adamo is Mr Ruthless. Why does he have to make up a story about why he prefers Breen ? Its his team and he can pick who he likes. If he says Breen will make the team stronger thats it. If Mikkelsen would he'd pick him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
While I am sure the WRC guys will be a bit more happy, the Historic class is suffering badly from having to run after the 2nd WRC run.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
And to be fair, so are we spectators, Rally Sweden have been awesome with the historics in between the WRC runs. Almost always cars on the stage, and really fun. Now it will be hours of waiting with nothing happening. Too bad.
"I like Breen better", does not look like a good PR release. Takes 2 mins to find something positive about a given driver and a rally he has driven before. Besides it doesn't have to be Adamo making the explanation up at all, just some PR person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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They could have just as well "kept" Breen for that and used Mikkelsen for main team points. One would think that main team points are more important than the (remote?) possibility of taking team points from others.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Anyway I agree that if the team is going to happen (which I doubt) it will be first from Portugal and onwards.
The whole situation of "keeping Mikkelsen" is rather special. They "keep" him and he drives around in I30 N and does Monte Recce in Hyundai BMW-1 recce car, but skip him even for the obvious pick. I said already mid-last year that he should just go pay for a season at MSport no matter how the car is. (he'd still have Suninen/Lappi to compare with). But Mikkelsen doesn't want that.
That's only on Friday, after 1st run on Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/u...eng-2020.5.pdf
You think he'll finish and finish in the points ?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
It’s a long shot but if one of the two main M-Sport guys retires and Jocius finishes then why not? After all there are only six scoring manufacturer cars this year, or am I missing something about how the manufacturers points system works?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If one of the other 2 Fiestas don't finish (for example due to technical issues or crash the makes them unable to do superrally (Suninen had one last year), then he will automatically score points, no matter what position he is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Therefore I don't really see any clear downside, but there might be some limits on "available parts" that will be affected.
EDIT: RS was faster.., there is something about those parts though. Remember how multiple teams retired their 3rd non-scoring cars previously (Hyundai in Portugal and Mexico last year, Citroen multiple times in 2017 and 2018), to enable use of more replacement parts.
M-Sport probably don't care about manufacturer points this season anyway
Well they like to point out their "points scoring" series.
Isn't there a rule that explicit says that team must nominate at least 2 and no more than 3 drivers who can score points at the rally.
If I remember corectly Sordo was kind a fourth driver and score best but was not nominated for points (or it was Paddon, don't know exactly).
Yes. Max. number of drivers nominated is 3 per team, out of whom 2 best will count. So in RMC for example, Evans and Ogier scored points for TGR, Loeb scored 5. position points ( as Rovanperä didn`t count, being the third best Yaris).