Ok, clear....nice that he has ambitions....dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Ok, clear....nice that he has ambitions....dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Herzig SS9:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmluwAoqpY
Ingram SS10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CeO1ak7NME
Lukyanuk SS11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5yHS4lUfps
It’s now easier for Ingrams mom to beg money for next season.
And one accident would have been the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
One accident. The end. Over. Finished.
is that an excuse for the 5 stage wins the whole year/not even lead a rally whole year/not even one rally win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
Exactly!! Some people are still not getting it; he can't push 10Tenths. It's basically a hand to mouth situation for him. To compete and win the Title is pretty astonishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
Yeah, sure he'd have won half of the events if he had more budget... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
Anyway, congratulations to the champion. I'd also like to mention Oliver Solberg, who is for me the best driver of the season, who was 5th in ERC before Hungary, despite having competed in only one event! What a championship! :(
The victory reminds me Pons's PWRC title. Let's hope that this time the history doesn't repeat itself because for Pons a title without a single win was the last thing he did on the international scene.
Anyway Ingram deserves the title simply because he has the highest score and he would win if all events counted as well. In fact the rules favoured Lukyanuk as the faster driver.
Won the Championship though! Don't get me wrong, I think we all love Lukyanuk, but I don't see what Ingram did wrong, he did what he had to do. Okay, if he'd been able to out pace Lukyanuk and be as consistent as he was, we'd be talking about him like we talk about Rovanpera or Oliver Solberg, but he often wasn't too far off Lukyanuk's pace and didn't leave you feeling like he was constantly on the edge of throwing it all away.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
That's the interesting part of the thing because it's not true actually. This year it was Lukyanuk who looked much calmer on the stages and Ingram who was driving pretty wild.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
It sickens me these critics and moaners.
If Ingram is so bad and its so easy you go and get one of your young drivers to win the Title with no money.
It's not an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It's the reason. 100% the reason.
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Is it another 5 year plan from a Brit??Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Great place on the wide road here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJmASORZ0E
No money? Come on now fella, let's not play that game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
100% sure is that with bigger budget he wouldnt be much faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
there is no reason for sickness ,the same would write if Prokop was world champion against Ogier ,with no wins,5 stage wins all year,and never leading any rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Four stage wins for Ingram this season. Two in Canarias, one in Zlín and one in Hungary.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVg8...0KPvmYNB_keSpM
Video from Passats.
Wow, so much salt on here.
Well get this...
CHRIS INGRAM IS EUROPEAN RALLY CHAMPION 2019.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJCAVKiX...jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJCJkaNW...g&name=900x900
Get used to it.
It's not salt, get over yourself.... It's the reality of the situation. Nobody is knocking the lad, well done to him.... It's the points system that's totally flawed!
Eddie, be cool dude...
The points system is already heavily skewed towards a flat out driver. How many more dropped scores would you request or how much bigger would you make the points gap between 1st and 2nd to reward speed/unreliability against consistency? I don't know how much you'd need to change the system to get Lukyanuk out of his bad luck? It is what it is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oops!
Sorry but You can't be more wrong. The point system absolutely favours the flat-out drivers over regular finishers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Oops!
It doesn't favour, it rewards, as winners should be rewarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Nah, I don't agree with that. Not counting all events always favours those who go flat out no matter what because it gives them jokers. I don't like this type of rules to be honest (in whatever championship).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Most sense that’s been talked in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Should remember also that Lukyanuk only took one win this season, this is not some great injustice.
It’s a shame the competition was not stronger this year though, ERC still has a lot going for it. I feel if they can develop the live streaming product a little more then this may help attract more drivers/sponsors. These days it doesn’t need to be on conventional tv, especially if it remains free to watch as it is on Facebook/YouTube.
It would be nice if the points system was simpler, but the other advantage of this system is that drivers can feasibly compete for the title even if they miss one or two events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
But at least all the championship contenders were competing this weekend and the title wasn’t decided by who was on the entry list.
I'm not favouring anybody, teams or drivers..... I said the points system is flawed... You know it is when you have to get the calculator out to work out the system.... It needs to be tidied up and simplified.Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Ah okay sorry, completely agree on that front. It's way too complicated, particularly the way points are dished out to the top 7 after each Leg, on top of everything else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Oops!
Congratz to Chris and Ross but this thing is riddiculous. This title is a farce and it is worth close to nothing... I guess Oliver would have won it with only 4 events.
I like a lot that Eddie posts these SKODA R5 EVO pictures ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Finally some coverage in the UK !!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/50368744
Yeah, I paid £££s towards it ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Ingram
Thank you so much to everyone who has supported me along the way. This is for you 🙏❤️ https://t.co/Z1IBBZjcim
Ogier
Well done Chris! Maybe the Hand Check with this Young Boy gave you some inspiration or dream!!😊
Press conf with Luky & Lehus:
https://www.fia.com/news/erc-erc-hun...nce-transcript
Maybe, maybe not. So far we have mainly seen Oliver compete on fast gravel roads so it's a bit of a stretch to say he would win the title just because he was super fast in Latvia.Quote:
Originally Posted by KaimarTaal
I was at Rally Hungary as photografer, here is my point of view:
I fully agree with what Lukyanuk and Lehus said...It is pure luck if you come over the stages without puncture or not....yes luck is part of the game, but should not decide the Championship :(
BUT from a Spectator (or photografers) point of view, it was one of the most spectacular Events i ever visited....everything could happen in every corner...different lines, different approches, really intersting to watch!
Sure, the weather was a key factor, but in Mid November, i think it is not a big Surprise that it is wet, cold and foggy...so the mixture of weather conditions AND much more Gravel Parts than everybody knows was the Problem!
Maybe they should think about a complete day on gravel with only a few Tarmac parts and the second day on Tarmac without gravel parts, than the crews will be there with the right suspension and the right tires and Luck is not the decider...??
I am sad for Lehus and Lucas that they did not make it, but it was not just in this race, Lucas told it, luck was the whole season not on theire side :(
But in the other Hand i have to say big respect to Chris and Ross and the Toksport Team. Who stays so cool and (almost) free of mistakes in a Rallye like this with sooo much pressure is really worth to be a Champion!