You need to remind/read about the principals of economy....
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You need to remind/read about the principals of economy....
https://www.rallit.fi/vahvoja-viitte...ytyi-jahdista/
Adamo stopped negotiating with Tänak, M-Sport don’t want to risk everything on one driver. Seems it’s Toyota for him
The more precise citation from that article would be "MSport hasn't found money for Tanak".
If that is the case then the big question with regards to Msport are:
- will they try to aim for any championship? Imo they could have a decent shot at manu title, but they would need to pay at least one established driver (Latvala/Mikkelsen/Meeke in about that order of probability)
- if they stay in "money making" mode will Evans leave for some decent salary at Toyota or Hyundai?
Millener actually says in the story that they don't want to end up in Ogier-esque situation again, where the whole business of M-Sport is on the shoulders of one single driver. Luring Tänak out from Toyota would probably require replicating that kind of deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Tänak also said his situation with Toyota is still open. I wonder if those decisions affect his Toyota decisions. Now basically Tänak doesn't have anywhere else to go so maybe he must compromise his salary?
Dont believe everything he says :) (contract wise)
I would assume it's prerequisite in every contract Tommi makes, that the other party must refrain from speaking anything meaningful when in contact with media.
https://www.is.fi/ralli/art-2000006235844.html
Finnish media IS reporting that Tänak is about to land a monster deal with Toyota. It is understood that the biggest obstacle has not been money, but Tänak's demand of clear number one position in the team for next year, which Mäkinen has traditionally been reluctant to give to any driver. Bunch of other things as well, but unfortunately I have no time to write longer.
In the article Jouhki also says that Latvala's situation "is not looking bad". Whatever that means.
You have absolutely NO idea.. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Adamo realises hes been played
Wilson and Tanaks plan coming together, and he stays at Toyota..
You guys... Reads my posts from 3 months back
Also says that Tänak's salary could be 5-10 million, in case he keeps winning rallies and earning more bonuses. And that Tänak has been "shopping around the service park", trying to find out what kind of things he could get black on white from other teams. Not just money, but other issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Regarding Tänak's demand of number one position, you can see clearly why he could have never gone to Hyundai.
Imo it's not so much about him demanding preferential treatment before the start of the season or getting better parts. But more about not having own teammates chase him for seconds in lead and crashing (like both did in Finland) or taking points off him in numerous power stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
But sure at Hyundai he would never be n1 until he consistently beat Neuville in a few rallies.
Autosport article with the same content as rallit.fi in Finnish last night
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...set-for-toyota
If money isnt the big issue, well Tanak would definitely be the No. 1 at M-Sport...
You understood that wrong. The point of that statement is that Toyota has no problem paying what Tänak wants, but Tänak wants other things than just money (such as no1 driver position). Money was likely an issue with Hyundai and M-Sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Adamo just said on All Live that Loeb will do six rallies next year.
well Loeb said that himself multiple times this year as well that he wants to do 6, so no big surprise. Wonder if he might go for more gravel rounds if he doesn't like the tarmac car, guess we'll see after Spain.
I understood. Tanak has had an acceptable financial offer from Toyota but wants other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
If M-Sport (M.Wilson) could afford Ogier and would've kept him this year... then they can use that salary now to afford Tanak. If they couldnt afford him then they wouldnt be in for him.
Salary...what about everything else that makes the car a title-winner? That takes more money...and that is why Ogier decided like he decided. Just look at what and how Toyota is building/testing all the time. Owning a "private" track they can in addition use for SWE and FIN preparations...having it just a small chopper flight away from his family, with engineers a small car drive away from his family...
WRC.com
There was plenty of speculation in Turkey about Tänak’s future and when he will confirm his employer for next season. He made his intentions clear after the event, pointing out that he’s not involved in that process and his focus remains on the next three rallies.
He added: “I have been focused all season on this championship and that doesn’t change. I want to finish this year in the perfect way, but I guess we know this will come quite hard to win it.
“There are people in the background who are working for me and for next year and, obviously, it’s important to get these things fixed. There’s really not much for me to do in that direction, but I won’t be distracted by any of this. People know what I want for next year, but, for me, I focus on Wales.”
say hey how
What does it say about 2020 seats?
So it's the same every year...the top driver without contract says "I want my contract to be confirmed earlier than usually"....and then we hear nothing until late autumn
That doesn't mean most drivers haven't been signed already (like last year with Latvala and Lappi) . Just that the info doesn't get out.
https://www.rallit.fi/tommi-makisen-...a-yha-vaantoa/
Tänak saying again contract things are difficult and everything is open, Mäkinen saying it's about little things.
Little things like car stopping by itself between the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Or Tänak demanding the number one position in team hierarchy for the coming years. Not an outrageous demand by any means (especially as Tänak's main title rivals have such in their teams), but might be a bitter pill for Tommi to swallow.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He better start swallowing soon and hire decent number 2 in same time also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
He's got arguably the fastest car on the service park and there's bunch of drivers without a contract for next year. I'm sure he'll eventually prevail in one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
Hyundai Motorsport
@HMSGOfficial
#WRC Seven up for #Sordo!
We’re pleased to confirm that @DaniSordo will remain with our @OfficialWRC team for the 2020 season.
Read all about here �� https://t.co/PYyPLn9bLZ?amp=1
I wonder if Neuville will again be the only Hyundai driver to do all rounds... :rolleyes:
Was Loeb signed on a one year deal? Sharing third car with Sordo again sounds likely.
Edit: according to Autosport Loeb has a deal until the end of next season and will share the car with Sordo. Second seat is between Mikkelsen and Breen unless Hyundai can get Tanak.
It's not necessary to be either mikkelsen or breen, they need a person or two to instant deliver result. not adapting for like 5 rallies or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
There are other drivers that are uncontracted that would be better / safer options than MIK and BRE...Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Sordo and Loeb haven't exactly shared the car this year either. And even though Australia is gone, there's still the issue with few rallies (Finland, likely Sweden, maybe NZ) that neither one wants to do. Mikkelsen most likely isn't satisfied with any partial program - unlike Breen. Does Adamo want to keep Mikkelsen "at all cost" (meaning giving him a full season)? Looking at the standings one could assume he wants, but practice has shown otherwise. Quite a puzzle I would say.
Do tell who. I can only see Evans. But I am very unsure how much "safer" he is given that he has never driven anything else than Fiesta WRC at top level. Latvala or Meeke might be better options when stars align, but are certainly not safer.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
Clearly that's the decision point here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
Mikkelsen would not want to drive part time and certainly would not want to find out 2 weeks before a rally that he is not going. Similarly he would want changes/testing of the tarmac car, not like it has been so far.
Adamo with Loeb and Sordo singed for part season, would prefer same situation as this year with Mikkelsen (or Breen) doing just some rallies.
From the (limited) comparison this year, Mikkelsen is the better option result wise. So the question is if Mikkelsen has other options and can push for full season and how much Adamo wants him over Breen (or someone else).
Silly season getting tighter: https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...tvala-for-2020
It's really difficult to judge because it's Tommi. All theseQuote:
Originally Posted by Eli
"I hope we can find something else for Jari-Matti," said Makinen.
"If we open the view, we could find something else for him, maybe, maybe.
"In the overall project we have different areas, maybe there could be something."
don't necessarily mean anything. Tommi's never saying anything anyway and especially when he's somewhat out of his comfort zone speaking in English, it's even harder to draw any conclusion whatsoever.
But that was interesting that he claimed Kalle had been faster than Lappi and Suninen when he tested the early version of Yaris WRC back in 2016.
It sounds like he will be downgraded to R5 class just to win in a title with it and boost sales. If it will be coming. They hide anything about that like secret government test facilities.
The R5 has been rumored about for a long time and Mäkinen confirmed it was coming at some point. One would think that anything Tommi does confirm must be almost ready to race but I'm not so sure about it in this case. One thing's for sure: Latvala is way too good to be competing in any of the R5's and I think he knows it himself as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse