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In fact Prost lost the championship by half a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by bt52b
He was declared winner of the Monaco GP with half of the points (4,5)
If the race had been declared complete the next lap and Prost handed 6 points for second he would have been champion by 1 point.
Sorry completely off topic. Just to precise.
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Originally Posted by Rally_Rocks
If it's only 13 km, they could do a couple of extra laps on the remaining Superspecials. They wouldn't undergo the embarrasment of half points. Would they?
If i was God, Argentina would not be a happy place to be right now......
Calm down guys. After all it's the weather to blame. Organizers hasn't done much wrong. Except maybe cutting the schedule a bit short.
You could do a rally without roll-bar in the car and with no problems at all... except if you crash. But do you even imagine in doing a rally in a car without roll-bar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Must have been the first time ever they have bad weather in Argentina...? Where is the back up plan? How come cars managed to get in on time but drivers not? No busses in Argentina? It's all to organisers to blame about the mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
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Originally Posted by Gard
Silly question.
Why not run at night?
Oh, wait, ISC/FIA killed that idea years ago...
And the organizers are very much to blame. The Cordoba airport has constant fog problems, and the Buenos Aires airport is notorious for problems with radar. The organizers put forth a plan that had two very serious flaws that they had no way to control for. I mean cripes, the whole thing hinging on the condition of being able to land 3 jets at an airport notorious for fog problems, at night, which is the prime time for fog in the first place. The lack of an exectuable contingency plan for this very possible scenario is pathetic.
This was a bad idea from the beginning and now the rally is a complete sham because of it.
I agree, their schedule was a bit risky.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
All that interests DR is money thats why he ruined WRC to line his pockets!!!
They should have made it a WRC raid, from Buenos Aires to Cordoba. At night! Now that would have been spectacular!
Good idea, poor excusion.... It's not totally organizers' fault but still disappointing to lose one whole leg. I wonder how this cancellation affects the future of Argentinian events.
lol
well at least we've gotten the news........5-6 hours later.
Why is DR automatically blamed for this? Did he have anything to do with it? He's got more important fish to fry...
its quite difficult to imagine that this whole stupid idea is someone elses but his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
ahh.....
The problem was created because they wanted a SSS in Buenos Aires.
Most of us, don't like them, but i think most of us don't mind them either.. But we have now that ridiculous trend of putting the SSS in stadium. That forces the whole rally to move far away from the actual competitive rally location. Athens, last year, was not too far, Wembley was already further, Monaco, this year, was already ridiculously far and this time in Argentina it's just idioticly far!
Sure, the organisation is not responsable for the weather, but they choose to take that risk and now everyone pays for it. the FIA is the one also pushing these SSS so they also have their part in the fiasco [anyway the FIA is always to blame]
WRC dot com
"The organisers of Rally Argentina have announced the planned ninth stage of the rally, the Cordoba Stadium Super Special, will proceed tonight as initially planned. The stage will run at 1905 local time (2305 GMT) and will be broadcast live on WRC+ as previously announced."
feeeeeyuuuuuf!!!!?????
It is interesting that they are going to run the Super Special, yet, they can't run the real stages, why not cancel the Super Special and make sure that the proper stages are run? I know, they would screw themselves even more cause a lot of people have tickets to the SSS, but image all the people that traveled to Argentina to see the rally and they don't get crap. Could this be the end of rally Argentina in the WRC calendar?
ss7 should have started by now??????Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
Yes stage 7 should have started in 11minutes but has been canceled. But SSS is at 7:05pm, it is now 4pm! So only a few hours! Only thing is any one know if it will be Live on WRC+?
I have an idea! Why not put up SSSs at all stadiums in country and then let them drive from one to another, that way they only have SSSs and all of them are held at stadiums. Perfect! Or...well, maybe not so very... :erm:
It´s time for a Beer i think! :beer: Now controle by the F.I.A :D
Exactly, not a single real rally-fans care about SSS, so why are they still doing them ? Just ridicolous :down: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by xavier
they are propably going to drive fridays stages on sunday, so that they get enough km, to give full points
Its turning into a compete joke now!!!!!!!
What a complete and utter f**k up ...
They've been pushing NZ to a single service park and handy SSS which went off like a dream last year and then they (FIA) allow this to go ahead.
If I was a driver I'd be refusing to drive the SSS, that's just a circus show, not a Rally.
If I wasn't an optimist I'd be saying DR is attempting to kill WRC by making it impossible to run.
Glad I didn't stay up all night waiting for something to happen.
No WRC Radio, No Radar, No Information, No organisation, No F****g good. Some one needs their rear end kicking for this.
who should be made liable for 1/3 of the cost of team's costs for doing this event. Millions of pounds wasted.
Blame the organisers, the weather, blame this, blame that... But whoever sanctioned a 600kms for a round trip to a super special needs their head examined. Its a complete waste of resourses. Planes, trains, trucks, ... for what? To see a 1/2 empty football stadium? Talk about saving the planet... its not a very good showcase.
Sitting here is Europe with little or no news, for a World Championship, is little short of pathetic.
Forget about the corporate hospitally, (on at least on 12 of the 16 events in the year). Rallying is not F1. Buy a couple of helicopters, bolt on a couple of cameras, broadcast it live on the net with live splits on screen. Have a couple of roaming reporters doing live interviews at the end of each stage. I would pay €100 for a year for decent coverage, but this is just useless.
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Originally Posted by pino
The problem are not the SSS, the problem is a SSS 750km away from the HQ of the rally. Please don't mix the things.
SSS are good to the rallying because they create interest in lot of spectators that usualy don't follow rallying.
What about the spectators who actually follow the sport. Those who planned to take in Fridays stages and see some proper rallying? Will they still be interested after this incident?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
A SSS is a great idea if it can be accommodated properly. In this instance it was not.
This is really disapointing for everyone. It must be super frustating for the international spectators who made the effort to go to Rally Argentina. I also feel for the privateer drivers who made the expensive trip there. Nothing worse than sitting outside the cinema when you have paid for your ticket to go in.
I wonder if there will be any financial compensation on entry fees etc.
Bringing the rally to the masses is one thing, but unfortunately this has really backfired.
Not much sleep for the organisers this weekend as they will be scrambling in damage control.
I'd be very surprised if they can run any of Friday's stages on Saturday or Sunday. The logistics of road closure, warning the residents/farmers etc, new timetable, is too big. This organisation takes months to do.
I guess the report after the rally will blame the weather.
Real shame.
I dont belive in this, yesterdays SSS war more than boring, actually a SSS gives no picture about what rally is.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
It is a shame and doesn't improve the image of WRC at all.
BUT. The idea was great. There probably are not that many people who would have travelled from Buenos Aires to Cordoba to watch the event. But those people got the chance to see the action there. (Although there has been better superspecials than the one we saw last night).
The organisers took a gamble in some sense, but who on earth could have predicted such bad weather months ahead. I know we are rally enthusiast here but sometimes we need to see bigger picture. For WRC to be a big sport, it needs more than us few enthusiasts, it needs bigger audience and the only way to do that is to introduce it to new people. The Argentinian organisers tried to do that (and managed to some degree), but were hampered by bad luck. We should understand
UGH, I have spoken
http://www.wrc.com/page/News/Breakin...021286,00.html
In light of the cancellation of today's special stages, WRC.com is now offering free access to the WRC+ live video coverage of tonight's and Sunday's Super Special stage which will be run in the Cordoba Stadium.
The broadcast coverage will begin tonight at 1905 local time (2305 GMT) and will continue Sunday night at 1305 local (1705 GMT).
Thank you for following Rally Argentina this weekend with WRC.com
Maybe it would have been more clever to arrange free transport from buenos aires to the stages and back instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Thanks COD. I agree, it was a gamble. If they pulled it off, the FIA would be singing their praises. Unfortunatly in all went belly up.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Can't see this type of thing happening again... no Helsinki stadium, no Stockholm stadium, no Roma stadium...
Keep it simple.
[quote="Maui J."]
THANKFULLY !
Hi all, i just come from work... no much to say... i still cant believe FIA allowed to organise in this way. Im from Córdoba and from the begining when they announced to start in Bs As, i couldnt believe it was worth and i wondered about enough time.
But, somehow i supposed FIA would say "no" when checking the risks.
I think ALWAYS must be considered any possible emergency to solve.
I think also that people from BsAs who like rally, take the weekend and come to Córdoba to watch and enjoy the gravel stages. then NO NEED to take rally there.
Cordoba STadium was almost full last year.
I believe this situation made organisation disaster, ashaming and more expensive.
Im deeply sorry for lot of people who travel a long to watch and those who were from the night before waiting on stages. Im sorry for drivers who had to be around.
Then, finally, i expect the rest of the Rally goes well.
Hugs you all,
Exactly. Only thing is, modern day rallying isn't really reflecting it either. But to me, SSS are the shame of today's rallying. It's not a circus...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
http://www.wrc.com/page/News/Breakin...021286,00.html
They wanna buy us???
I think it's more of an attempt to apologize.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Sauron