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Some thought it was a good idea to go for a cheap 2WD championship :)
Yeah, those bunch of twerps who were in control before MSA took over. Just shows how little idea they had of what they were doing!
Two-car team for Spencer Sport in the Mirages at round one - although as predicted they will have to run in the national series as they still chase that (futile?) global homologation.
Osian Pryce and Jamie Jukes will drive. Not sure if they will do a full season programme. They can't reccy the stages and make their own notes in the national section which makes it more of a challenge.
MSABRC.com "The Spencer Sport team is confident that with a strong line-up in both series, it can challenge for podium positions and outright wins, as well as the MSA British Rally Championship title."
Ambitious ! :D
I think that refers to Tom Cave with the Fiesta EVO. He should be one of the favourites for the title.
The Mirages wouldn't be eligible for the title anyway
Any forumers going to round one in Mid-Wales?
I'm heading to the Circuit of Ireland already but seriously considering getting down to Wales for the Sunday action.
Yep, me and a couple others are meeting up. Really looking forward to the night stage more than anything!
Will probably head up but haven't really looked at itinerary or anything, so depends on what's involved. It's probably a solid 3 hour drive for me sadly.
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Originally Posted by Jack4688`
And don't forget Euan Thorburn in his 208 T16 ;)
Well I'm traveling up with Chris Chapman and we are staying at a bunkhouse which is £19 for the night. You can come up with us if you like?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Holy crap that's cheap, what time you planning on leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
I haven't seen a timetable yet, but I'm guessing it will be late lunch time, I cant imagine the 2 night stages being run that late at night.
The itinerary is here: http://www.ewrc-results.com/harmonog...es-Stages-2016
I'll be there, though I'm not sure which stages I'll do yet. I'll also hope to do the Scottish again this year. I last did it in 2014. The stages were very nice, but the BRC really was dead on its arse then. The Scottish Championship was the main attraction!
Entry list going from strength to strength...still a bit Ford biased but that's to be expected I think.
Not sure if I fancy the night stage or not, will have to think about it.
70 miles for an International event? Is that enough?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it - but I'm wondering about the speccy info. The 2 stages on the Saturday night are repeated on Sunday - are they going to let people stay overnight? One hopes they will. Otherwise it's a lay-by on the A44 for the night.
So that iternary is real? I honestly thought 1 day was missing.
6 stages and just over 100 km of stages..
Well I did wonder as I haven't seen it anywhere else, but it seems a bit of a weirdly realistic/unimaginative itinerary to make up if it isn't genuine. It's certainly not just a copy of last year's, as by comparison this is a 40km longer endurance event... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Sadly by modern UK gravel rally standards 110km isn't that short... All the BTRDA rallies last year were around 70km. Towards the end of the old BRC the Scottish Rally was 94km in 2014. Rally Yorkshire was 96km in 2013, with the other two gravel rounds being around 120km. Ewrc have also got distances, but not itineraries, for the rest of the BRC season: http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?s=2016&nat=2 No idea how or if they're real, but according to them the Pirelli will be 120km, Scottish 104km and Nicky Grist 160km including Epynt... The tarmac rallies are all over 200km though.
Hopefully we'll see longer rallies in future. For a start I'd merge the two Welsh rallies. Joined by 200km (Perth based) Scottish, Pirelli and Yorkshire Rallies and you've got yourself a proper Championship! ;)
It's short, but WRC events aren't exactly an endurance. It all comes down to what forests are available and how much it costs these days...and that's without taking into account the increasing safety. From next season I've heard that rally marshals in the UK need to have done a training course, which will massively reduce the number of people that volunteer IMO. I'm bracing myself to get used to seeing not just short rallies but also cancelled rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I think it is strange that M Sport are putting up a fight against a small team like Spencer. According to the rules there is quite a difference in preparation possibilities btw the national series and championship series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I like Mr Wilson, but I think he got a better deal when he started his team, and should give Spencer a possibility to run among the big boys. They are miles ahead anyway, but they need to start somewhere, and this only makes it harder for the drivers, and a more boring series for us.
Many loves an underdog, and you were there once Mr Wilson....
I guess he wants every penny he can get out of every deal. The car is a perfect rival to the Fiesta in two segments: the young guys who just stepped up from 2WD and/or less wealthy teams. They might have opted for a Mirage, it's R5, cheaper than every other car in the category, it might have some potential on certain rounds, and it's great for getting 4WD experience or to just drive around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I kind of agree. But if the car fitted in with the rules and had all the support/paperwork behind it then there would be nothing Malcolm or anyone else could do. Until it has that then it's always going to have that asterisk next to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
David Bogie in a Skoda Fabia R5!!!
http://www.msabrc.com/david-bogie-br...r5-to-the-brc/
The entry list will be great, but the itinerary is a joke... I considered doing a BRC event, but I quickly changed my mind. Let's hope that's not how it's going to be all year long...
Don't hold your breath, it's a sign of the times in British stage rallying sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
As Jan says above, I'm afraid that is probably how other BRC events will be run.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
It would be nice to see Friday evening starts, then a long day on Saturday, followed by a Sunday lunch time finish. But that's fantasy world.
At at the moment, the BRC can't compete against BTCC, BSB, British GT, etc were speccies can make a weekend of it camping.
I'm probably repeating myself but the biggest problem is finding enough miles on enough different roads at a price that suits. They will already be using stages twice and the competitors are probably already complaining about cost, big mileage events simply aren't viable in the UK anymore without some serious investment. Not only that but getting enough people to marshal the miles is tricky, and will only get worse next season when all rally marshals need to pass a test and have a license to marshal.
Just realised that I've conveniently booked the Monday off work so reckon I'll head up myself and then stay overnight in Merthyr on Sunday and hit Bike Park Wales on the way back...unless you two are up for that too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
Why is it a joke? If there's any BRC event you should do then it's the Manx in September. Starts Thursday night and finishes Saturday afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Cronin and Greer confirmed with a DS3 R5.
Entries are really crazy, though they might want to change the name to the British Rallysprint Championship.
I would love to, but I've already paid for Saturday night, and the car is back in it's second home at the garage having a clutch issue looked at, so can't afford another night :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Come to the Circuit of Ireland, 2 days of rallying and 3 championships meeting, it's going to be wonderful!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I would have wanted too, will be crazy entry.. But TAC rally our main rally of the organisation where I'm doing the fb page and twitter is that weekend..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nornbugger
I'll be over for the circuit of Ireland, can't wait, it will be brilliant!
Disaster for Tom Cave on Red Kite Stages, his shakedown for the first round of the BRC !
Tom Cave @tomcaverally
Not a good #redkitestages for us & new Fiesta. Off in SS1...
Absolutely gutted mechanical problem which sent car off rolled endless times down into the ravine, both ok thankfully
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbvMTocWEAAgx5V.jpg:large
Strewth, that's a long way from the stage!
Great entry list for the Mid-Wales, even the clubman event has a decent entry. Interesting to see cyclist Gee Atherton on the A list, didn't realise he did rallying.
It's great to see BRC having such a strong comeback! It'll probably be the most interesting national rally series to follow during 2016, with lots of young talented drivers and all R5 manus represented. Just hope Evans will be less dominant than in WRC2 (using DMack's can help).
It certainly seems to have captured interest - let's hope its like that for the whole year. And it gets a real push from Promoters/ organisers..
the sport has become invisible in recent years - though if you believe some people, rallying doesn't need spectators....
There are plenty of people with that view, too short sighted to realise that spectators are the next marshal/competitor/stage commander/clerk/mechanic in waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Jon Desborough & Colin Clarke doing the TV comms for the BRC on Ch4... :(
I'm not as bothered by who does the comms as I am by how it's done. The 'as live' style commentary that the WRC has had for years really annoys me. I'm watching a highlights package, I know it's a highlights package, so why the need to try and pretend it's a shock when someone has a moment or crashes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC