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I think Craig helped it a lot with hard landing after one jump in SS 14.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Pluto yes,there is a possibility to have a oil pump failure due to a hard landing ,but at psa r5 cars we have seen many of them without ''hard landings''Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
its something we will never know for sure,even we guess the reason.
Breen at his comments didn t said something about hard landing though..
I was listening Estonian commanatry after the end of SS14 and they told that car had damage at the front and They quessed that it was the last jump, just before the end of stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
They rolled on ss 15, close to the spot where Kangur rolled last year. Here is the picture of the car and place where they managed to find hidden tree stump that threw them over. They just went a little wide but it looks like tree stump made the worse. We helped them later to put the car back on the wheels. We were spectating a km later, 200 meters from the spot where Plangi was destroying camera :-) It was the same cameraman that was in our place at shakedown :-) he is completely crazy! By the way, he is official Eurosport cameraman.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
come on bluuford, tell us more about the rally!!!http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smi...forum/rtfm.gif
some nice heli shots,and nice landscape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNQFlcDP2c
Amazing vid dim
KKSF HD video with mistakes, close calls, action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfGOcJQ7-8
Really nice and refreshing result from Luky, I hope he has a great Rally Finland. I
Also great drive by Kajto for a first time in this rally. It's a pity Kuky skipped the last two rounds, the title may have been a three way fight, although there is still a chance if some sponsors are found.
A photo sequence of the big crash by Adolfsson
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.p...f488deb0d1e19e
In the weekend I was painting my living room and I was listening the rally radio for both days, what an amazing rally and battle for 1-st and 3-rd it was. Really happy for Alexey that finally he won an ERC event with the old evo, fingers crossed for Finland with the Fiesta despite it will be very a challenging switch. Hope he will have some proper testing prior to rally and not adjusting everything during shakedown. Kajto was also very impressive and the battle with Breen for the championship is wide open.
Quick video review from motorsandsports.com from Rally Estonia 2015:
http://motorsunsports.lv/video/erc-rally-estonia-2015
Lukys moment at last stage with 2 wheels from heli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGv_fJ03r7I
Anyone found video of Breen's 'heavy landing' or a photo of the car afterwards showing the damage ?
Maybe this at 20sec ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE69jHeDEE
So Kajto was second, just 12 seconds behind the winner. Are you surprised? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eib1
nope, that cant be it, thats Timmu Kõrges jump in that video...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
hopefully ERC is going to upload some more videos including onboards soon ... :P
Ok, OK, I will tell.. I was just very tired :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Warning, long post! accuse dimvii :-P
So, we started on Friday morning from Tallinn at 07:30. The first setback was the fact that I could not find my hiking boots, so I had to bring my Nokian rubber boots :-) They were very warm!
So, we planned to go to the old house corner in shakedown and there was another bad news, northward parking lot was only for press... Fortunately I did my homework well last year and we drove to the other side of the stage and walked along small forest trail that we used last year. When we reached to the stage then I found out that I had made one very big mistake… I didn’t noticed that shakedown is in opposite direction and this old house corner is extremely boring in this direction. Luckily I remembered that there are several very nice corners a few hundred meters towards the start of the stage. It was easy to walk there as security guys were very friendly (they were very strict near the old house).
So, we ended in a very fast section exactly one corner before Pärn crashed and one corner after Kõrge went off ;-) We hear both actions and walked to see Pärns car. As I told before, we saw how Pärns Fiesta disappeared behind the corner and then we heard a big bang. My friend told me that lets go and see it.. I had my kid with me and I told to my friend to wait a moment until I ask if my kid stays on the chair or comes with us, we had a short chat and suddenly I heard that next car has started (we were 45 sec from the start and it was possible to hear). Then told to very inexperienced young marshal (he was there for the first time, first stage) to move a little bit towards the start of the stage, on the visible side of the crest and slow next car down (because I knew that crash was behind very fast and basically blind corner and we didn’t know if the car is still on the road or not, no one was between those corners). Marshal went on one side of the road and I was on the other side. As it was very fast place, then we left maybe 2,5 m between us. Salo came with fifth gear and used those 2,5 m while driving something like 150 km/h, that was a bit scary, he didn’t lift at all but it seems that it put him to think that something might be wrong, so on the crash corner, someone was in the middle of the road to slow him down and everything went well. It was strange that he didn’t get new opportunity to do the stage, his stage was clearly interrupted.
On our corner was one Eurosport cameraman who was standing on the place where all the cars were throwing huge amounts of stones. He was completely crazy and when we asked if it is painful, then he showed us some small injuries. He was the one whose camera was knocked down by Plangi ;-)
Then we moved to Tartu to our fraternity house and I must say that many cars were very slow, historics were great! We were in the middle of the straight where we were able to see two corners and many cars took the corner in the middle of the road, like some taxis. However, atmosphere was nice and some cars were pretty spectacular ;-)
Next morning we were a bit late with wakeup and I had to drive, because my driver qualified on the co-drivers seat only. We spectated stages nr 3 and 5. Very fast, downhill right corner. 2WD drivers were very spectacular there like Volver, Niinemäe, Sirmanc and all Opels ;-) Lukyanuk, Kangur, Plangi and Kajto were all very clean there. We shortly met forumer Garais (I think it is his forum name), he moved to service to meet Pluto ;-)
Then we moved to SS7 to my favourite place, we were a bit late and we missed a few cars. My favourite place was not restricted area this year and it was spectacular as always. Luckily no one crashed but the French crew Lubet/Belloto made a spectacular stunt there (they were over the limit almost everywhere we saw them). They cut too much into the corner and somehow they jumped form the bank to the corner and passed it successfully!
We moved to SS9 to end our day and now we were together with Garais again. It was the final corner of the gravel stages on Saturday and it was spectacular, it was very long corner that tightens at the end. Many drivers had proper moments there and we saw some extreme sideways driving. Lukyanuk, Plangi, Kõrge, Aus, Kaur and Kajto all very clean on that corner.
On the final day we had very long sleep again and my driver didn’t qualify for the drivers seat again, so, I had to drive again. I must say that he was very bad co-driver as well, because he was able to direct us to wrong place almost always, luckily I knew the roads and understood when we were on the right place ;-) We missed the first loop because I was a bit busy with forecast and we were late out from our accommodation! We parked our car near to the spot where Plangi hit the camera and walked a few hundred meters towards the start of that stage. It was quite long downhill corner. Lukyanuk, Kajto, Aus, Niinemäe, Volver and Sirmacis were really fast there, Plangi was too fast already one corner before his huge moment. And after the end of the stage we moved to Zwaldas crash place and helped them to put the car back on its wheels.
My overall impressions. Rally was very compact and selection of stages was great. I think it was the smallest distance I have ever driven during one rally! Most of the surface was still very good only few places were with great ruts.
Drivers:
You might say that Lukyanuk is crazy. No, he is not. Maybe sometimes. He has extremely feeling of the car and he is able to predict how the car should behave. He was very clean in all the places we saw.
Kajto, was very fast and clean, he was one of my biggest surprise of the rally. Very well deserved 2nd place
Aus: This guys is worth some credits. He has 9 years old car, couple of family friends as mechanics and father as a team manager. Great drive, great result.
Plangi was driving mostly very well but seems that some car problems during stages nr 2,3,4,5 and driving error in SS7 lost him the podium position. He was very lucky with incident in SS15. The funny story is that he broke one tyre on that spot but he discovered that only 0,5 bar is in his rear left as well. So, he took last stage very easy with warning lights on. He was only 0,5 sec behind Kõrge. Kõrge didn’t know it and pushed pretty hard and got puncture in SS16, so finally Plangi finished a bit ahead of him again;-)
Kõrge was driving well, mostly. Some mistakes robbed some time and confidence. Not too bad with new car and it seemed that 208 T16 as overall package is not working in fast Estonian roads. There is plenty of room for development
Breen: I do not know if it was the same problem with the car or him. He was nearly unvisible in my spots. Nothing great to say.
Salo: All over the place, strange lines, sometimes backing of before blind crests. Very bad drive:
Sunninen: Mostly nice lines, sometimes overdriving, Endned badly.
Kruuda: He has developed as a driver… a lot… I remember his lines from a few years ago and they were very angular, now it was clean, fast and nice to watch. This guy has a great potential
Kangur: Very good drive despite one mistake with wrong pacenote. Was a bit too fast during free practice (was on two wheels on our rapid corner together with Murakas) but calmed down by the rally.
Kaur: beautiful drive, just a small mistake ended his rally.
Pärn: Felt too fast during free practice and QS. I am not sure if it was technical problem or speed that took him off. It just felt too fast and I was not the onlyone.
JERC: Sirmacis : Flatout everywhere, clean drive, nothing bad to say, he was clearly faster than other drivers together with Niinemäe. It was pure unluck that Niinemäe lost his position to Bergkvist. He was clearly faster than Swede. However, Niinemäe lost nearly 15 seconds and second spot 1 km before the end of rally when the engine just shut off and he had to restart the car. Seems that 208 R2 is very fast car but still unreliable (Ingram also retired on the final morning with electrical problem, however, his speed was a bit dissapointing).
Volver: This guy is fearless. He is too fast. He needs to take some lessons from Urmo Aava to put his fearless approach in a good use.
All the Polish drivers were driving with very good lines and seems that Urmo has done some great job with his driving lessons;-)
Well, I am almost happy with the rally. I was just sleeping too long ;-) Driving was very spectacular and competition was very tough. Strange is the fact that there were only three drivers in the lower part of top 10 driving Michelin tyres.
And guys, if you see Eurport cameramen on the stage, then feel free to direct them to a little bit more spectacular spot. The cameraman in our spot moved to the spot that we suggested ;-) and his spot was shown live several times in TV show.
Too long.. One nice video for the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1X...ature=youtu.be
You can see here that during Free practice Pärn nearly hits the same tree that Lukyanuk hit during the QS (one corner after Pärn crash). By the way, Pärn in Estonian is basswood (Tilia)... so Basswood hit the oaktree ;-)
And funny photo of photographer who was trying to make some selfie with flying car.
https://instagram.com/p/5SqmDim-Al/
Yes, i am. Very impressive drive by Kajto, biggest surprise of weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGFSmhOxXGQ
Here is my video from the rally. Including speed, action and mistakes.. + Lukyanuk´s short interview before 3 last stages :)
I don't wonder about that mess regarding to "Garais". In our company was user garais22 (who is writing for Latvia biggest autosport site go4speed.lv) and guy with nickname Garais ("tall one") in real-life :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Rally Estonia was great for us as usual. Thanks to bluuford we had a best available maps, so we avoid from 2km walking to SS3 spot (this blind downhill righthander). Estonian guys on N4 cars were spectacular while Lukyanuk was very cautious there. Eurosport cameraman received our applause after Plangi's gravel shower on him.
We moved to service park after SS3. There were no cars yet and best part was to taste yogurts from Kruuda team :)
SS7 was our next. It had to take quiet a lot navigations works to get there. But leading co-driver sindroms proved himself once again :) Spot was even better than in video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1X...ature=youtu.be 0:08 minute.
We did a service park once again then. It was very nice to meet PLuto finally.
SS9 access roads which looked quiet ok on maps, turned out tough to drive. So our company splitted. We took a walk about 1km and met bluufoords company once again. Long uphill righthander - right one place for Estonian N4 guys.
Second day was ordinary. We stayed in SS11/14 stage overnight. Uphill righthander, then downhill following by sharp lefthander and nice panoramic view in addition was our first choice. In second run just to change our spot - 300m straight. Ok, some kind of jump was there.
Opel suspension looks absolutely great - all Opels were driving like on rails. I was missing Estonian national championship a lot.
Not a lot to say anything else about drivers as bluuford did it absolutely perfect.
Our gallery - http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/photo/erc/...tonia-rallijs/
Sorry, my memory on the names and Forum names is terrible :-( I hope you do not mind :-) And indeed, Opel boys were pushing like hell but the cars were very stable. Very good car!
As Mirek pointed out the video is from 2014, but worth another view!
Amazing onboard with Lukyanuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUU1...ature=youtu.be
That's from 2014 but it's still amazing ;)
Final words.. 197 km/h ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Oops! I didn't notice that! I was carried away by what I was seeing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Watching the ES highlights there was quite a good view of Breen's car after he had retired. They were taking the front bumper off and it didnt look like that was much damaged. Then they showed the front close-up and all looked fine apart from a half crack on the sumpguard. The rest of the front end including the radiator, IC etc looked perfect.
So it appears that the oil pressure problem which ended his rally was just an 'internal' engine fault and not caused by some damage from a heavy landing...
"Towards the end of SS14, we started to lose oil pressure – something’s happened inside the engine and there is nothing we can do about it,” said Breen.
if the sumpguard had a crack,maybe from landing pushed the sumptank,inside the sumptank is the oilpump.
I suppose if the problem appeared pretty much straight after the heavy landing then maybe so... I just expected to see more damage if the landing was so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Kruuda retired in similar way. It seems that he got a tronger impact in the ruts and it broke the radiator. Something is not right in these cars, front low impact should not kill radiator or engine in general.
Kruuda didn't brake the radiator. Front bumper broke in ruts and pieces blocked the radiator, it overheated and water boiled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Just checked out Pierre-Louis Loubet, because last name Loubet sounded very familiar to my ears. He is indeed the son of Yves Loubet, the famous rally driver from Corsica. Yves Loubet was competing in Lancias for many years and won European Rally Championship in 1989 driving Lancia Delta Integrale from the famous Grifone Esso team. Nice to see his son continuing the tradition of his father! 8th position in FWD in Rally Estonia my not be very impressive, but still not bad for a 18-year old kid! I hope he has more luck in his career than Mathieu Biasion, Alessandro Bettega or Anton Alen!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
http://www.modellismo.net/forum/atta...eriser0011.jpg
Good luck trying to brake a sumpguard without damaging anything else. It's pretty strong sheet of metal and it simply doesn't crack itself just for fun. If You don't see any damage on the video it doesn't mean there is none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Here's a pic from the video of Breen's car after retirement and they took the bumper off to see the damage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psfb4dpavx.jpg
That's not sumpguard. This is laminate box for radiators. Anyway You can't judge any damage from such picture.
By the way does anybody know what is that hose lying on top?
fresh air to somewhere they need to cool.if we could see a betetr photo from engine bay,maybe we coud see where they drive this hose.