This problem has always existed in Peugeot Rally cars. Starting from 206 WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by manthey
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This problem has always existed in Peugeot Rally cars. Starting from 206 WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by manthey
Everything was designed wrong on this car.it seems to be a joke and not a rallycar.
As someone has said before - the Rally car must be engineered as reliable in first place. Then can be made faster by tweaking this and that.
The photo above is best illustration of this season for Peugeot.
First you need to make fast car, then you should make it reliable.
It's relatively easy to make reliable but slow car, much more difficult to make fast one. When you've got good package - fast car - then you can focus on making it reliable. It's way easier than to make fast car from slow one.
Starting in cold it's often problem with rally cars, so you should prepare for it - by testing it and beeing prepared, at least with spare battery at exit of parc ferme time control.
Usually bigger problem is with starting atmospheric cars rather than turbo ones, as those first have more compression ratio - thus more difficult to turn the engine.
Anyway, this years performance of 208 R5 in ERC is farce... In Valais Abbring had problems with many things.
By "reliable" I mean to make it strong enough to survive the various conditions it'll face and still leave a room for performance imrovements. That is the way to build champion car imo, examples - VW Polo, Skoda Fabia S2000/R5. If You go totally wrong with something like the engine in reliability and homologation options are limited, sorry this is not the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
Ten minutes to start of last day stages, wonder if anybody can be a traith to Lappi?
Lappi extending his lead after first stage of the day
Breen taking second stage of the day, this stage has some gravel in it, isn't it?
Both ones but this one had more gravel I think. That's what I love on these stages. There is incredible variety and all in the stunning countryside.
By the way Abbring was again faster ;)
You are right, but i didn't see time of Kevin yet;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Kevin Abbring is setting the fastest times, Lappi extending his lead to Kajto, who has to start looking behind, because Breen in approaching fast.
looks like (if the 208 won't fail him) Breen can take 2nd
Next stage can change a lot. It's much longer and on todays stages the differences are bigger than yesterday. Without splits something extraordinary may happen.
Yes, this Les Cols stage is very tricky, and often something is happening at this one. It is really a great stage to run.
Despite having picked up a puncture a few kms before finish, Kevin is taking another besttime. Breen now only 2,2 sec away from Kajto. Looks like he will be second overall rather soon.
i am very curious to know,how many stage wins has Abbring,stage wins at stages he has finished/compete.
23 out of 50, including Valais.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And some of those he finished with car not working...Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
He is showing amazing speed, pitty his car is not up to his speed.
thanks EightGear,amazing stage win percentage from Kevin.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Kajto's engine on fire after the stage? That doesn't sound good. Breen has passed him now in overall classification.
where is Abbring?
Surprisingly no besttime for Abbring, he is loosing 11 sec on this one.
i jinxed him..
Tarabus went off on stage 17
Kajto didn't start SS17, so i guess it is over for him. Pitty, he was doing ok.
So Abbring failed again though driving without pressure. Car this time as well?
Maybe this time wasnt 208 failure
from fiaerc.com
Kevin Abbring completed the stage with damage to the front of his Peugeot 208T16 following an overshoot
But on the next stage he lost over a minute.
Anyone figured out how the current positions will impact the championship standings?
What happened with Abbring, i don't see him in SS17 results?
He is in now, but loosing more then a minute, what happened?
probaby car is not ok from overshoot at previous stageQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
He didn't start stage 18.
I guess he retired then?Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Yes probably, ERC site is reporting it could be because of damage of the overshoot on stage 16.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
He said they had a nice view from there...Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...01076add5f779c
They hit a stone inside a bend.