Lol, what a huge anti-climax.
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Lol, what a huge anti-climax.
I think that's it. His chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I agree with 306 Cosworth, a plonker.
I have found it amazing reading all these posts about how 'amazing' he is, and can't wait to see him in Finland top 5... Really? He hasn't actually done anything really of note, all I could find was he beat some guys driving new cars in an older 4WD. Hayden Paddon won a round of the NZ championship in a 2WD escort beating all sorts - including Ken Block in a WRC car and nobody commented on that before Sardinia.
A shame. But in cases like this I feel sorry for people who waste their time supporting him.
Can people still change their Pickems?
This is too clever for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Lu(c)ky no one got hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Read the news that cage is damaged and Lukyanuk will not start in NORF this year after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IW1orMRBJI
No it´s not. And from where did you get your voice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
He is an amazing driver, just beat all R5 drivers in Estonia, if you didn´t know?
But - yes - he is not clewer enough working his speed up.
For us who wasn´t on place no one can comment why or how this happened.
I feel sorry for him. Had been looking forward seeing him in NORF all the way to finish.
Number 1 rule?
'Don't crash in testing'.
Number 2 rule?
'Especially don't do it on your first testing outing...'
Well, he fu**ed up big time :(
Just beat all R5 drivers in Estonia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Yes, you are right, it is amazing but it does sound a little bit like 'Golden Boot for Stevenage in Football League 2".
As I said, Paddon - 30+ year old 2WD car, beat R5 cars and a WRC car... That is a little bit more impressive and no-one seemed to care...
Hope that is not it for Lukyanuk in WRC. Might well be though...
Paddon has had his credits, well worth too. But it has nothing to do with Lukyanuk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
My point is, learn to walk before you run. Get the confidence and experience, then go fast. Being fast on rallies you know like the back of your hand is one thing, getting in a new machine in a rally you've done once and then going fast?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
People here were expecting him to be in the top 5, just look at the pickems - ridiculous.
I didn´t expect him top 8, (but havent done Pickem yet) but saying he even can´t walk is too much. He has proven much more than that.
No rally finland for Lukyanuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=P...&v=0IW1orMRBJI
Any jumps before this spot or was it a first .. ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK6WyngWgAMILBq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK6WyQnWUAE9cTW.jpg
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What You say applies for young drivers. Lukyanuk is 35 years old. For him the only (and already little) chance is to make something stunning. There is absolutely zero point in safe cruising and learning step by step as nobody gives him the chance to do so. What happened is of course a shame but sometimes shit happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Look at the Estonia results, the event clearly was very friendly to N4 cars for performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I'm disappointed this has happened to him though, I saw him doing the Circuit of Ireland, I expected some crazy mad driving and once the event started what I saw was a guy taking time to learn his way and getting to a respectable pace. Perhaps here in Finland he had a great chance and was trying too hard to make it all happen? Who knows, but its a shame he'll not be on the start line for SS1
If he'd gone off on SS2 in the rally then I think what you say would be completely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Yes that's it basically what he did. Game over.Quote:
Originally Posted by thuGG
Probably first jump pic 2, than 1 and slipped at the landing? Shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
Real shame for Lukyanuk and his fans & sponsors. He has real speed and bravery - it would have been great to see it in Finland.
Suppose the crash shows he was really pushing and he wasnt here just for appearances..
'So, rally Finland is finished for us before the start. On the test stage I was too fast over jump and failed to correct the speed and line fo the next turn. It seems unreal, but it's done... I'm sorry, I disappointed a lot of people, who trusted me, Mihail Lepehov, Malcolm Wilson and many others... Sorry for our team and fans...We will recover, but first and last chance in WRC is waisted. Thanks for your attention and support. A. Lukyanuk'
:-/
Like he said, first and last chance. No one else to blame than himself.
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it is a pity he wasted his chance like that.
In huge contrast with our dear drivers on the circuits, he is honest to blame it all by himself and no other bullshit about handling and/or other stuff... Lukas and many of his fans -me included- were aware of this limited once in a lifetime chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Gutted for him, but to crash like that so close to the start of his first run in the car is mad really :(
I was spectating at Lukyanuk/Prokop test. It's a familiar test road used every year by some team, for example Skoda used in June and Hyundai last year. Test started a little late I think, though of course the drivers had limited mileage and enough time, so... When I arrived, Lukyanuk was driving the stage without helmet, checking the pacenotes and getting used to the car, I think. He did that again a little later. Prokop did same one way, but returned in almost full speed.
I moved to a crest that is a jump, line continues straight, but road turns slightly right with a big rock on the left. I just found a video on my iPad with sound of Fiesta and then bang, bang and bang. I was about 150 metres away.
It was a place with jump and another jump into lefthander. There was rock on the right. You can see from the pictures how Lukyanuk approached that place. Eyewitness told Lukyanuk did not lift at all to either of jumps. At previous tests drivers have hold the car to on the last jump at least. There were only 3-4 (Russian) spectators (two photogs, ms. Arnautova), marshall and his son who witnessed the crash. I tried to talk with Lukyanuk, but he was very disappointed, out of words. Quite quickly the place was cleared, and I continued to Keuruu to see P3 drivers test.
I think this was very huge mistake for Lukyanuk and it can't be explained by saying he had to give in all. It was not the rally yet, but the first time he drove that car in anger. He was less than 3 kms into that first run. He had nothing to proove there. 2-3 clean, more slow runs, and then start to attack if needed. The road was also slippery. It had rained during the past days and the morning too. This was very fatal mistake considering his career. I like the guy, working mans hero, but this is not the way.
On the way to Keuruu I accidently went by Citroen JWRC test + Lefebvre. That was only a small stop for me.
Reached Keuruu in the afternoon. Road conditions were already quite rough which caused Tidemand's cooler damage and also puncture for Camilli and maybe some else too. Fabias seemed extremely stable on the rough too. Lappi took one rough part very calmly, but fast where Fiesta drivers like Camilli and Pedder approached the place like it was their last corner.
Nice start for the rally week. Six days left ��
I feel for him - a fabulous opportunity, and it's ended before it really started. Should he really have been pushing so hard in testing? Probably not, but you never learn by driving slowly - even at a test.
Just shows that rallying is a 'cruel mistress' - unlike a circuit racer, you can't get away with mistakes - you're in the trees and the car is severely damaged.
Some drivers seem to get plenty of chances, without proving anything - yet this seemed to be his only chance. Sometimes the WRC seems like a 'closed shop'.
the sad thing is that this mistake could just be a simple one that every driver does once in a while and not because he was pushing beyond his limits... we will never know.
Even if he gets another chance now in a WRC i really doubt we will see the same Lukyanuk we see in ERC.
@N.O.T. My commendations to you. You have been a much more mature member of our forum community. At least in commenting the Lukyanuk matter.
(this no sarcasm - I really mean it)
Stop that nationalism. To beat everybody in NZ championship is completely different thing than beating everybody in Estonian roads with N4 car where most of fast ERC regulars were present. Paddon is supperb driver but I can easily say that Lukyanuk is among those. And when Estonian says so about Russian driver (who beats most of Estonian drivers) then he is really worth it. Onlyone who was faster than him during last two years was Tänak. I belive that huge competition that Lukyanuk offered to Tänak in Estonian Championship 2 years ago made a big favour to Ott to learn how to get the last out from the car while not crashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grundo Farb
Estonian event is good for N4 cars but it is not perfect. I still belive that R5 should be slightly better solution on our roads. His skills (experience and bravery) on these roads were just better that the others. Aus, Kaur and Plangi are all fast and experienced drivers ith N4 and they have proved it internationally as well.
Many drivers have crashed on the jumps and I feel that Lukyanuk was extremely unfortunate with this. Looking him at the stages is pure pleasure. It is not crazy driving, mostly, It is extremely fast, efficient and therefore spectacular.
I really hope that someone in Russia has too much money and we will se him behind the wheel more times. When it is not WRC then at least R5 in ERC. And I am not afraid that he is slow. After his accident in Viru Rally in 2013, he came back to Rally Estonia, rented old car from Plangi (Evo9) and was third overall, 30+ seconds in front of Kaur and a few seconds behind Kruuda who was driving Fiesta R5.
From this
http://static.fiaerc.com/wp-content/...ns-800x600.jpg
to this, in just over a week ... Rallying is cruel.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK6T2ACXAAAPkQW.jpg:large
Dreams crushed along with the car...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CK6JwSNW8AAayvl.jpg:large
Big respect to Lukyanuk about this words knowing perfectly it was his mistake. No excuses just face it square and fair. It's pity what happened but he was trying hard not just to finish the rally saying how good was his rally ( last rally ).Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
ERC interview Alexey Lukyanuk
With his first victory in ERC Rally Estonia 2015, Alexey Lukyanuk was able to confirm his talent and good times achieved in this season. But he mostly knew pass a course, the game-winner. A St Grail that has escaped many drivers entered in ERC, and even officials as Sepp Wiegand (Skoda Motorsport ex Germany driver) for example. So imagine, when one is a private pilot and besides driving on a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X N4!
Alexey Lukyanuk agreed to answer our questions following his victory at the last round of the ERC, details:
The Sport Auto Mag: What are your feelings after your first win in ERC?
Alexey Lukyanuk: It's a feeling of pure joy! The path to this result was so long and so hard and I can say that now I am totally satisfied with our performance!
You were untouchable this weekend, what is your secret? Do you think your Evo X had an advantage over R5?
AL: Professionals know that a car category R5 will always be faster than N4. Many world that the max speed of our N4 was an advantage, but we do not drove at maximum speed! We exceeded 180km / h only a few times during the rally. I "managed" to win with fewer special max speed, so everything is a driving issue. I believe him. And let my secrets stay secret;)
What are your goals for the next rallies ERC? Will you participate?
AL: At the moment we have no program for the future because of our financial worries. We are still looking for sponsors and if we find we will do other rallies ERC.
What are your goals for Rally Finland 2015? How did you have the opportunity to participate in Ford Fiesta RS WRC?
AL: The plan is to take a max of fun doing this rally. I guess this will be my first and last start in a WRC car. I will not waste this opportunity and do everything to reach the finish.
The opportunity was provided by Michael Lepekhov who supported Evgeniy Novikov WRC for many years. We are on good terms and Michael gave us the opportunity to take the start in Finland. Only a rally, nothing more.
3rd in Jänner, first before going off the road in Liepaja, 6th in Ireland, and now first in Estonia. What a result for your 2015 ERC season! Did you expect it to before the start of the season?
AL: For a first on European roads is not too bad. Our main problem, our lack of experience on asphalt. I'm good on snow and earth, but just over 500km of asphalt experience at present. This season, some fast drivers are engaged in ERC, and so it inflates our results are not so good, usual, well I think.
Do you have plans for the 2016 season?
AL: No, ...
What are your dreams for the future? May become the first Russian driver to win the ERC ... or win a WRC rally?
AL: I am no longer young enough to have sweet dreams. We desperately need sponsors to go further ... without that, nothing will.
At the end of the year 2014 and early this season, your livery was "We Want Peace", a message about the Ukrainian crisis. Do you think that sport, and more specifically the rally can bring peace?
AL: Of course not. My co-pilot, Eugene Chervonenko, is a politician in Ukraine, so it was his idea.
http://www.lemagsportauto.com/erc-in...ukyanuk/11164/
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I like the photo when he was still in the air. The others... Pitty that it happened, the timing couldn't be worse but you can't plan it...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
he has a tendecy crasing with back
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In my opinion this crash had nothing to do with being unfortunate. Had been on SS1 when the clock is ticking, then fine, but on a pre-event test before the most important start of his career, on his first run in Fiesta WRC, on first kilometres into the stage, not knowing how the car behaves, not knowing how the road behaves. He had limited test mileage (we don't know that for a fact), but still, why? Don't get me wrong, Lukyanuk is great character and simple pleasure to spectate on stages. After Otepää the question was why team bosses aren't fighting over him. After a maneuvor like today, if you were Capito, Matton or Nandan, would you give this guy a car?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
agree with your post,and to answer your question ,definetely yes,i would give him a second chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
why? You answered in some way - "the clock is ticking" for him. Purely his mistake no doubt, but if You have only limited chances, You just try to give everything You got on them. Gutted for him, he deserves much more than this. As for Matton, he gave Meeke enough chances I think, though Meeke had much more IRC/WRC experience....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori