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13 is too many events, but 12 is also too many. I think that maximum is 10, ideal should be 7-8...
Do you think R5 will incline the scales to more events preference in 2014?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Agree. I would rather have 7-8 events with all counting towards the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
There will be some new events in ERC in 2014, but I hope that some other from actual will go out. ERC needs lower number of events...
Have any teams or drivers indicated that they are planning to compete in ERC in 13 yet?
All I heard is that there is some interest from Malcolm Wilson's M-Sport (with Fiesta), Giandomenico Basso (car unknown) and Molly Taylor (with Citroen DS3 R3T from United Business), but it is still very early!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Yes, I 'd have to agree. The best 7-8 events with a fair mix of Tarmac/ Gravel.....but I'd rather a good Tarmac event than an ordinary Gravel event - if that means more Tarmac than Gravel, then so be it. I'm disappointed that Valais wasn't included. Run it a month later, and have a Swiss end of season Monte style event. I'm still staggered by the omission of Sanremo....it defies belief.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I hope the ERC is a success, how are Eurosport going to cover/promote it? Will each event get the same level of coverage? The live IRC events were great, however, the highlights of the others were poor. This can't happen anymore.
Sorry Andy but in Switzerland studs are not allowed in rallies so it wouldn't be another Monte Carlo...
Its not only a rumor, but it seems Robert Kubica will do Jänner Rallye with Fiesta RRC. Could be great if he plans a full ERC season.
Like like like like like like like like like!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
Doh, like here in UK. Ah well, never mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I do like Valais, it should be in the ERC, as should Sanremo. We still haven't heard why it isn't in. I hope it's not because other paid more money than them.
I dont think it depends on money. There should "enough" from Valais Organizer. I met him at past Jänner Rallye (OK, many months ago), and they explained me that they would be inside WRC from 2014. First thing I though they are not in ERC, that their plans are anyway WRC. I know Valais Rally, was there several times, one of my favorite races! Shame that I wasnt here since many years. Again same date as Waldviertel Rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
When can we expect the official calendar for ERC 2013?
I think he was meaning Sanremo vs Sanmarino. Sanremo orginizers have budget difficulties.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
Wed is FIA council meeting, so we will seeQuote:
Originally Posted by evoIX
Antonin Tlustak in SMN TV confirmed that he wants to attend of all rounds ERC 2013 with fabia s2000
It is still too early, final calendar will be important to make a decision...Quote:
Originally Posted by had_zachau
Any news about the calendar?
Large exclusive interview with Francois Ribeiro from Eurosport about the ERC future. Original is in Czech but I think the google translate makes sense in most of the article.
PYeklada Google
Maybe just main points...
ERC will have 13 events, two halves, 4 events count of each half, basically same system like so far in ERC
Calendar to be shown in one week, it will contain snow, gravel and asphalt in fine mix
Till 1st September 2013 asphalt events will be run on current tyres, after that date only on WRC-type tyres for higher safety (but any tyre manufacturer can supply them)
There will be no manufacturer competition but new team competition but without mandatory number of events or driver nominations
For drivers there will be no entry fee and no mandatory number of events, overall, production and 2WD titles will be awarded like in IRC (R4 to be part of production trophy)
IRC may be resurrected in the future but outside Europe, in the moment it's not up to date issue
FIA is going to make WRC more worldwide (limit number of European events) and therefore wants strong ERC
There will be less island events to safe costs and ease logistics
M-Sport, Prodrive, Škoda Deutschland, A-Style or Kronos are named as examples of teams interested to take part
More live coverage is planned
Eurosport was interested into taking WRC promotion but admits the Red Bull Media House offer was better
In the new Calendar there are also SAN REMO (10-12 October) and VALAIS (7-9 November) included.
Good news !
Finally the ERC will gonna be powerful championship as many years ago. It's very much needed for the European motorsport. It will be prestigious for any good driver to be European rally champion... again. I like the idea of WRC to be limited in Europe and more worldwide championship. It will limit some quality drivers but on another hand this drivers will participate in the European champ.
I hope there will be no entry fees to guarantee more and more entries in each round of ERC. This is a cost that could be taken from the organizer and the sponsors of the event. It's interesting to see the future of ERC!
It is known when some official statement from FIA will be published...list of events...regulations?
Where do you see this info Werner ?Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
No entry fee was meant for championship not for particular events. There are very few organization which can run an event without money from entrants...Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgi
EM-Kalender mit Fragezeichen*:: rallye-magazin.de
Seems Cyprus is out, but thats no surprise for me if an Organizer is not able to publish Regulations and/or website 1 month before ...
One more point from the interview with Mr. Ribeiro. Jänner Rallye shall be run on RMC style wide 18 inch tyres. No narrow snow tyres will be allowed for 4WD cars.
I agree with you Mirek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
On another hand every rally organizer should be able to arrange cheap accommodation for the entrants (special prices at the hotels around) and some free fuel for the service vehicles to reduce the costs.
2013 ERC calendar is out
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Jännerrallye Austria (Asphalt/Snow) 3-5 Jan
Rally Liepāja-Ventspils Latvia (Gravel/Snow) 1-3 Feb
Circuit of Ireland Rally UK (Asphalt) 28-30 Mar
SATA Rallye Açores Portugal (Gravel) 25-27 Apr
Giru di Corsica-Tour de Corse France (Asphalt) 16-18 May
Croatia Rally* (Asphalt) 6-8 June
GEKO Ypres Rally Belgium (Asphalt) 27-29 June
Event TBA** (Gravel) 11-13 July
Event TBA** (Gravel) 25-27 July
Barum Czech Rally Zlín (Asphalt) 30 Aug-1 Sep
Rally Poland (Gravel) 27-29 Sep
Rallye Sanremo Italy *** (Asphalt) 10-12 Oct
Rallye International du Valais Switzerland (Asphalt) 7-9 Nov
I only don't get this line: ** Depending on negotiations between Bulgaria, Romania, San Marino and Turkey.
Can someone clear this line ?
They explained, that there was no time to speak with each Organizer, so no decision about that four races. Anyway, only two of them will place in ERC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgi
Thanks Werner.Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
To me it's strange that Bulgaria is involved because our rallies are only on tarmac and the three other events (Romania, San Marino and Turkey) are gravel ones.
The two dates that are left without decision are for gravel events as well.
Inevitably, some of the rallies on the 2012 ERC and IRC calendar have failed to make it into the draft selection for ERC 2013.
There are 2 slots left unfilled with 4 possible countries - Bulgaria, Romania, San Marino and Turkey - and 2 reserve events, Canaries and Cyprus.
The events that definitely aren’t on the list, the possibles or the reserve include - from 2012 ERC - Rallye 1000 Miglia, Rali Vinho Madeira, Rally Principe de Asturias, and - from 2012 IRC – Targa Florio and Yalta.
11 different countries are in the calendar, with 2 rounds yet to be announced. There is no round in Spain or Germany
from: irallylive website
This means "whoever pays the most".Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgi
So it seems Kubica will do ERC 2013 with Fiesta RRC.
Ah, I see, they've been listening to me. Sanremo and Valais both in. Good news.... ;)
Sanremo and Valais never been out. Draft calendar, which was published few weeks ago, was only non-official working calendar, one of the first versions...Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Who says so?Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
Last week was FIA Rally commission, where was approved calendar and was big discussion about regulations. When it will be ready they will send it to confirmation to WMSC. After that we will see the regulations :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgi
Sorry, I misunderstood. He meant only Monte Carlo short spikes, not Monte Carlo tyres...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I know that from a friend of him (an italian), today it was wrote at rallye-magazin.de*::*do it sideways!. First he is doing C4 WRC in Italy and end of season Rallye du Var. Probably I go to Var (with that italian), first time after 15 years ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z