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Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
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Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Only good thing about entries is Ogier in WRC car. Could be nice Loeb/Ogier fight. Sordo never won beside Loeb so it will hardly happen this time.
The question is, will Citroen favor Loeb over Hirvonen for the 1st place in MC? or they wont care about driver's champioship this year as Loeb out of the picture and they will focus on Manufacturers Champioship?
Loeb is their brand so Hirvonen will never win in 1-2 formation.
They want Citroen to win. MC is 1 event in season, so they don´t favor any driver. Loeb will be much quicker than anybody else in MC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostmourne
On other note, after last year problem with Mini's Portugal WRT (switching from Ar Ar to Chris Atkinson) I wonder why did not Bruno De Pianto give that seat to Chris? He had very good results in the last 5 events he took part with Mini?? and I think Chris got much more experience in WRC than Michał Kościuszko, or is it money thingy again!!!
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Originally Posted by Frostmourne
It's because Kościuszko has the LOTOS DYNAMIC sponsorship and Chris Atkinson have few or no sponsors ... so of course it's the money thing (It has always been the case in motorsport)
And there is also a question if Chris wants to continue with MI Mini. I wouldn't be surprised if not.
If I'm not mistaken, Monte Carlo will be the first rally with at least 4 different brands of World rally cars since Germany 2010.
In his Citroen era Dani was not allowed to win against Loeb...Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
He'd probably need to secure sponsors, and sponsors are hard to come by in Australia. Even for the Asia-Pacific Champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
There's also the question of how long this effort from di Pianto will last. They're obviously using last year's Mini Portugal cars, and the entry was made under di Pianto's name, which suggests to me that they're taking this one round at a time. Atkinson would probably be better off trying to get the Prodrive gig - they were running the Imprezas when he competed full-time from 2005 to 2008, so they know him. And he knows the Mini, having driven it last year. He might be a good replacement for Dani Sordo.
Yes, I hope Prodrive sign Chris to drive one of their Mini's. From all drivers who drove Mini's JCW last season, he got the best results, even better than Sordo! And if I not mistaken he got some good results with Subaru Impreza 2008 season, which many sees it as really bad car!
Have a look in the results and stage times again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostmourne
SNOWMAN: France's Jean Michel Raoux will drive Jännerrallye (Peugeot 207 S2000) AND Rallye Monte-Carlo (Peugeot 207 S2000 or Citroën DS3 R3)
mm Ok, I am comparing final results of WRC events in 2012 between Sordo and Atkinson when both were driving Mini JCWQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Germany: Sordo 9th position, Atkinson 5th position
France: Sordo Ret, Atkinson 8th
Spain: Sordo 9th, Atkinson 7th
Ok, I did not compare stage times, as to me no matter how you fast are you if you keep Retting at the rally, we all know that JML is faster than Hirvonen, but in the end Hirvonen always on higher position than Jari in the championship table.
or am I missing something?
Edit: Ok after checking the stage times, yes Sordo is faster than Atkinson, and Sordo had in Germany and France porblems that made him behind Atkinson... my apologies.
So on what leg will Latvala retire this year?
I bet on 6th :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
With team Sainteloc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallying UK
I think he will take Monte cautious as he won't want to crash on his first event with VW. I expect him to turn up the speed for Sweden though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
No pressure with Latvala for the Monte this year. He doesn't need to prove himself so he might just keep the car on the road.
With Prodrive needing sponsors, you'd think they'd sign up DMACK as a major or even a title sponsor; right now, DMACK is limited to minor branding on Martin Prokop's car. That would give them a) money, b) a long-term partnership with a sponsor, and c) the freedom to sign up at least one driver irrespective of his budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostmourne
Have you all noticed in that provisional entry-list that it looks as if both the Citroën and Ford team have split up both their teams into a factory "Full-season" Team and an M2/MT team
Citroën Total Abu Dhabi WRT:
S.Loeb
M.Hirvonen
Abu Dhabi Citroën Total WRT:
D.Sordo
K.Al Qassimi
Qatar M-Sport WRT:
M.Østberg
E.Novikov
Qatar WRT:
T.Neuville
J.Hänninen
N.Al-Attiyah
/!\ Google Earth Map Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 is now out !!!!!!
Wrc Rallye Monte-Carlo 2013
Good job!
but he will have to try and keep up with ogier, which will probably put more pressure on him than in previous years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughMac
This is an interesting point. He >>might<< have a faster car this year, but on the other hand he will have a faster team mate too.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Stop me if this is a silly question, but when was the last time the St. Nazaire le Desert—La Motte Chalancon and Sisteron—Thoard stages were used in the rally, if they have ever been used in the past?
Sisteron-Thoard was used last used in 2002 I believe. I have never heard of St Nazaire!Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
They have been used for sure in the past, i have been on both stage's before during Monte Carlo rally, but i don't remember exactly wich years that was. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
If JML has learned anything from last year then he should be happy to be first of the 'inheritors' ahead of Mikko - not sure that's in his DNA. However if SO has learned anything then he won't be at stupid speed before assessing the polo's performance in the rally conditions. Hanninen is the. Wildcard as he is looking to impress and has a car that is a known quantity.
La Motte Chalancon - St. Nazaire le Désert (so running in the opposite direction) was used in 2009. It was one of the stages which weren't broadcasted live.
I always like it when old stages are revived. I thought the 2011 Wales Rally GB had a fantastic route, simply because stages that had not been used in years were brought back to life with the round of rally cars. Unfortunately, the organisers decided to drop them again for 2012 and replace them with sratges that were uninspiring by comparison. But then, every decision that was made for the 2012 event seemed to start by asking the question "How can we take what works and make it worse for no reason at all?" ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitch555
Both have been used at least since the 70´s and 80´s, so quite famous Monte stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
I know they're famous; I was just wondering when they were last used.
found this one:
WRC 2013 Rally Monte Carlo SS 13:Sisteron/Thoard route preview. - YouTube
is there any old in-cars from sisteron?
I asked in this thread about some onboard from St. Nazaire le Desert—La Motte Chalancon few pages back and it seems nobody knows although I'm sure I saw it in 2009. I can't find it now. If I remember right it was someone with Clio S1600...
By the way Sisteron itself is incredible place. Everyone who goes there make yourself some time to stop in the town!Quote:
Originally Posted by HarriK
when will be published the official entry list ? :confused:
Knowing the ACM, I'd say it will probably be published in about a month.