Fantastic road and nice performance from Esapekka. Amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallisauna
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Fantastic road and nice performance from Esapekka. Amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallisauna
Best camera position-angle by faaaaaaarr!!!!.Is it so hard for wrc a camera like this?
More to come!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallisauna
That video was already posted few days ago on the other Finland thread, but it doesn't matter as at least I could watch that video over and over ad infinitum. It's rare that you caught the feeling of speed from an incar but this truly has it. And if they sometimes say that some roads are like rollercoaster rides, this must be the road they mean! Also, what Dimvii noted and I've noted it myself earlier, Lappi-Ferm's camera position is the best, it gives you all. Now I have crossed my hands up to elbows and wish them two the best of luck and super-fast stage times in Rally Finland!
also the "light control" is remarkable. most of the others are dark incar and shining road
84 crews entered this year's edition of Rally Finland. List of entries is now subject to FIA approval and it will be published as soon as it gets the approval.
Entries have closed for Neste Oil Rally Finland
PS: Could some of the moderators change the name of this thread to something more general like "WRC Rally Finland 2012"? I think it would suit better.
nice onboard from lappi!
I would put Lappi in a WRC car in a second.
Be patient, it's not always the best solution to put a very inexperienced driver into a top machinery. Give him time, everything has to be done step-by-step not in huge leaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Maybe this year's NORF is the first time when Lappi really has an opportunity to make a big (monumental) impression worldwide. I hope he manages to keep his cool and calm attitude and does a result which portrays him well. I'm eagerly waiting to see the S2000 battle, many fast drivers and in Finland there's always the possibility of a mega-surprise. :)
I think that Lappi should drive this season with S2000, next season also but with a much more international programme and perhaps then later in the year make few WRC outings if possible. I hope to see him in a tarmac rally soon, he's a former karting driver (and he has done some tarmac rally sprints) so he has more feeling for the tarmac stuff than Finns usually. Also credit to Janne Ferm - in the onboards, the note reading rhythm is very good, never too late and all the time with very clear articulation and tempo. :up:
Tipical example - Ott Tanak. I think he made very good WRC debut in Wales and now everyone is expecting too much from him.
How old is this Lappi ? has he faced any real competition yet ?
His results are rather nice in the european rounds he contests but with inferior machinery and with B class drivers...
I understand of course Finnish people and their starvation of seeing another champion after around a decade of loss, after loss, after loss, after loss.... but by rushing things you cannot achieve many things in top level...
and definately a round in your back yard doesn't make heads turn anymore... at least of the serious teams... local sponsors is another story.
Except for Finland, is Lappi going to do any international rallies this year?
@NOT: He is 21 years old.
Lappi is 22 years old, I think. About same age as Mikkelsen and Tidemand. And if I haven't forgot something very obvious, he hasn't competed outside Finland yet - that exactly makes very interesting to be able to compare his pace against more experienced drivers. He is definitely a driving in the making and absolutely no need to rush things. I just hope that he would get the chance and we, the Finns, after years of loss, despair, 1-point defeats, kaamos, mosquitos, alcoholism (mostly own tears lately, though), shattered dreams, wasted education, lost hopes - did I mention loss, despair and tears yet? - and Mikko Hirvonen would have someone that could become a potential champion.
More info about Lappi here: eWRC-results.com - profile Esapekka Lappi
@Hartusvuori: He competed in ADMV Rallye Zwickauer Land in 2010 and in Saaremaa Ralli 2011! :D
He has said in an interview about the possibility do tarmac WRC round this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Saaremaa I should've remembered. But I guess we all agree he hasn't competed yet anywhere outside Finland that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Saaremaa was quite a disaster for him and Korhonen as far as I remember. Both of them crashed and surprisingly times were not good as well, but that's Saaremaa Rally ;)
I think Lappi will be in top3 @ swrc in this event. And i´m sure he will do even some fastest ss-times. I think he has possibility to go forward and his future is well planned. He doesnt rush to wrc and goes step-by-step. He is managed by EvenRally (Same as Mikkelsen) EVEN Rally
Top-3 is nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-FIN
I don't think it's big words. Who is the opposition in SWRC this year? Paddon and? PG has Proton and most likely won't finish anyway, Salo I guess will be similar case. The real benchmark - VW guys are not counted into SWRC...
Indeed Mirek, I agree! What about Breen, will he do Finland or not?
The biggest mistake is if he stays in Finland and win the local village people over and over again...like many finnish drivers did in the last few years and they were considered talents but when they left the border they were ridiculed...
The only 2 succefull (short of) Finnish drivers we have had international careers in italy and UK respectively along with beating the locals...
In the last few years the finns tend to stay in their country and build a name there driving on roads they eventually learn by heart and when they tackle different surfaces or roads they get beaten senseless... let me tell you a liitle secret because i am a nice person deep inside... this is the model greek "rally" (LOOOOL) drivers do and the only thing they manage to do is have armies of yes men... but it does not lead them anywhere apart from when they get at the near death age of 60-65 they claim they could be world class, and as my bike mechanic is saying to me " I could beat Pedrosa or give him a challenge easily when i was 20, but i did not left the greek borders" and then all hell breaks loose....
what about the IRC finnish guy Pajunen ?? what is his age ?? i actually confused lappi with him when i was refering to the european events he contested....
Will you lend the money for Finnish drivers? Because you didn't use that word once and that's also the missing thing in many young drivers' plans, that fact goes globally. Going through the same villige idiot rallies over and over again is an option when you love to rally but don't have resources for anything else. That why I tend to use the word "chance" in Lappi's case.
Mikko Pajunen, compared to Lappi, is a senior citizen in the current age model of world rallying. He is around 28. And he is hardly an "IRC guy", but still doing rounds in Italy this year. Perhaps you mistaken him for Nikara?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Right, just like i have an excellent plan and years of Hex-speriance, just no money for the current level..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
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Mikko Pajunen, compared to Lappi, is a senior citizen in the current age model of world rallying. He is around 28. And he is hardly an "IRC guy", but still doing rounds in Italy this year. Perhaps you mistaken him for Nikara?
MY GOD! 28! he's 10 years past the "sell by" date....
Times have changed, somebody tweet him! It used to be you needed experience and that took time to accumulate....
Now, its all over by 21.
Poor guy, he'll probably take up drinking and be totally on the street by 31.
Rantanen and Lindholm in with Fiesta WRCs! Atkinson with DS3 under the Qatar WRteam. Tänak also in... Along with Henning.Quote:
Originally Posted by eib1
Pajunen continues with R4 Subaru, Nikara in with Evo9.
By far the best entry list of the year.
Honestly have you not heard the news?!? I'd be amazed if Breen does Finland after the last few weeks - a lot to think about and perhaps just too soon to jump back in a car, if indeed, he wants to right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
I agree with You! You never know though!Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Abbring said in the Acropolis Rally that his next rally was supposed to be Finland. No Finland for him though. :(
Also for a fact now is that Juho Hänninen misses his home event.
In general I'm very happy about the entry list. All the top driver except Sordo + few nice surpises.
No real works MINI´s and very disappointed that Juho Hänninen is not on the entry list. It seems that he was not allowed to drive any other car than Skoda, so no World Rally Car for Juho. Also VW Motorsport has decided that Skoda Motorsport is not allowed to compete in the same event. Why on earth? There would not have been better place to compare Ogier, Mikkelsen and Hänninen behind the wheel of the Fabia Super 2000. It must be that Hänninen´s road to the Volkswagen has finally closed (he said already that he has to look some other teams) and of course they is no room if JML is really coming...
In the SWRC it is unfair to Mikko Pajunen compete the R4 Subaru against the Super 2000 cars (maybe he can still change the car inside the class 2).
Very sad that there is no enough financial support for Jarkko Nikara. Once again only the old Mitsubishi Evo 9. There is so much hype about Esapekka Lappi (Fiesta S2000) winning the every round of the Finnish Championship this year (he is fast and very talented without the doubt), but Nikara driving the Evo 9 was almost able to beat him in Lapua (only 1,8 seconds separeted). Now would have been the time to drive the S2000 car again (only once in 2010) or already World Rally Car...
Glad that Chris Atkinson will get the chance to drive the DS3 WRC and Matti Rantanen is once again back after one year complete silence. The 51-year-old Sebastian Lindholm´s entry has to be the same tradition like Kankkunen, Alen, Salonen and Vatanen have done earlier. When you are at least 50-year-old Finnish rally driver you have to compete in Rally Finland...
Lindholm in ford after more then ten years and escort wrc entry.
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Originally Posted by tolis
Yes I find this very strange as well....
Yes, Finland was a 'definitly' for Abbring whilst Germany a 'maybe'. I expect him in Germany now, but I honestly think Finland would've been better for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Pity about Hänninen too, likely no WRC appaerance for him this year...
So Abbring is the opposite case than finnish drivers only competing in Finland? Only home events on tarmac, no competition on gravel? Am I wrong or is it economical or what?
VW's choice I guess...
Yes, since the start of the season it looks like no direct fight between VW and Škoda Motorsport is allowed. I heard Juho stays with Škoda for next year but I don't know if it's true. His starts in ERC anyway makes sense if he is supposed to beat new works Peugeots 208 R5...Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Such a shame about no Juho Hänninen, I Think he's really fast and deserves a drive. I guess VW have decided on Andreas since he's probably just as fast, while being a bit younger. Breen would be a surprise given the recent events, will be interesting to see the pace of Hayden Paddon.
Nice to see Atkinson in an event again, not sure how he will go, but he will be able to compare the Ford and Citroen performance this year. Disappointing not to see Dani Sordo, hope for a miracle and full envolvement for two Prodrive minis someday.
30 WRC and s2000 entries, makes me wish I was coming over again this year. Next year will have to do :)