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5th August 2011, 21:45
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Not to be funny, but if we're not talking about Lewis, why are we in this thread? Go post in Chit Chat if you want to discuss whether people stepping out in front of cars should be punished.

You're the one that made the initial reference to people. Perhaps you should leave such silly comments for the Chit chat forum if discussing it here bothers you so much.
5th August 2011, 22:20
Daniel

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

You're the one that made the initial reference to people. Perhaps you should leave such silly comments for the Chit chat forum if discussing it here bothers you so much.

Huh? If I'm not very much mistaken, Lewis Hamilton is a person, as are all other F1 drivers, therefore people refers to them, not inattentive pedestrians.
5th August 2011, 22:24
Daniel

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Originally Posted by henners88

Perhaps you should have said 'drivers' instead of 'people' which initially dragged this off topic. Your comment above suggested 'people' in the broader sense.

I think Mr Black Knight and yourself will just have to understand that you took it the wrong way. It's an F1 forum so why would I start talking about pedestrians? Unless someone explicitly states that they're talking about something else would it not be prudent to assume they're talking about F1? :confused:
5th August 2011, 22:31
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I think Mr Black Knight and yourself will just have to understand that you took it the wrong way. It's an F1 forum so why would I start talking about pedestrians? Unless someone explicitly states that they're talking about something else would it not be prudent to assume they're talking about F1? :confused:

We didn't take it the wrong way. You said people. You were wrong. The language you used is quite clear and you're only squirming now. If you meant F1 drivers them that's what you should have said in your post.
5th August 2011, 23:12
Daniel

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

We didn't take it the wrong way. You said people. You were wrong. The language you used is quite clear and you're only squirming now. If you meant F1 drivers them that's what you should have said in your post.

This is ridiculous, F1 drivers are people, we're in an F1 forum so it was obvious that I was talking about F1 drivers and not pedestrians or people making quilts or whatever you're going to talk about next. Regardless of what YOU thought I was saying, I have clarified what I said and your pedestrian argument is completely irrelevant.
5th August 2011, 23:35
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by Daniel

This is ridiculous, F1 drivers are people, we're in an F1 forum so it was obvious that I was talking about F1 drivers and not pedestrians or people making quilts or whatever you're going to talk about next. Regardless of what YOU thought I was saying, I have clarified what I said and your pedestrian argument is completely irrelevant.

Ahahahaha, this is hilarious. I love people like you. The type that never wants to admit they are wrong and desparately try and twist things around to prevent admission. There's a term for it. It's called Denial.

Here is your post again:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Of course. But people should be punished for careless actions which could have caused injury but didn't

Now, to amuse me further, can you just explain to me which part of this post you say actually refers to F1?
5th August 2011, 23:38
Daniel

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

Ahahahaha, this is hilarious. I love people like you. The type that never wants to admit they are wrong and desparately try and twist things around. There's a term for it. It's called Denial.

Here is your post again:

Now, to amuse me further, can you just convey to me which part of this post you say actually refers to F1?

So let me get this right, I posted something on the forum, me being the poster I obviously knew what I was saying, you tell me that i wasn't saying what I said that I was saying and that I should admit that I was talking about people in general when I'm talking on an F1 about an F1 driver? :confused:

Can someone please set this guy straight? I promise not to talk about canopies or coupe's for a whole week if someone will just set him straight.
5th August 2011, 23:39
Daniel

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Originally Posted by ME

Of course. But people should be punished for careless actions which could have caused injury but didn't

Of course. But people (you know, F1 drivers) should be punished for careless actions which could have caused injury but didn't (as was the case with Lewis Hamilton this weekend, see? There's the link with this thread)

Now please just get back on topic.
5th August 2011, 23:42
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by Daniel

So let me get this right, I posted something on the forum, me being the poster I obviously knew what I was saying, you tell me that i wasn't saying what I said that I was saying and that I should admit that I was talking about people in general when I'm talking on an F1 about an F1 driver? :confused:

Can someone please set this guy straight? I promise not to talk about canopies or coupe's for a whole week if someone will just set him straight.

EXACTLY! You finally said it! You were talking about people in general and now you're trying to say you weren't. But hey, yes, I'm not the only one that sees it that way either. I am happy to get back on topic now though. It will be pretty obvious to anyone reading thread what you really meant.
5th August 2011, 23:45
Daniel

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

EXACTLY! You finally said it! You were talking about people in general and now you're trying to say you weren't. But hey, yes, I'm not the only one that sees it that way either. I am happy to get back on topic now though. It will be pretty obvious to anyone reading thread what you really meant.

What?!?!?!?! I did not SAY that. That is what you are claiming that I said. I DID NOT SAY THAT, NOR DID I MEAN IT. What is your problem? No one else is agreeing with you, Henners said that perhaps I should have said drivers instead of people, perhaps I should have, but that does not change my intent. You seem to have some crazy way of knowing my thoughts better than me :dozey:

My non-dicsussion of coupe's and canopies offer still stands for anyone willing to set this nutjob straight. Heck I'll make it a month of not talking about them.....
5th August 2011, 23:47
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by henners88

As was in this case. Lewis was punished and he apologised to the person who was inconvenienced by his actions after the race. He would undoubtedly faced more serious sanctions had this not occured on the slowest part of the track where cars were going relatively slow IMO. For the record I had no problem with Lewis getting a penalty because he could have easily taken himself and Di Resta out of the race but his actions were not as dangerous as is being discussed IMO. I think its being blown out of proportion and exaggerated to sound alot worse than it was.

I rewatched the race today and one thing that struck me about this incident as I watched it was that DiResta could have passed Lewis without getting onto the grass, or at least it seems that way to me from the camera angle though it would have been a lot closer. This doesn't make a difference either way and the stewards have more info than us anyway. He still shouldn't have done it.
5th August 2011, 23:48
Daniel

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

I rewatched the race today and one thing that struck me about this incident as I watched it was that DiResta could have passed Lewis without getting onto the grass, or at least it seems that way to me from the camera angle though it would have been a lot closer. This doesn't make a difference either way and the stewards have more info than us anyway. He still shouldn't have done it.

The problem is that di resta, unlike yourself does not have the ability to read minds therefore he left a margin to account for Lewis to move across as obviously Hamilton wasn't showing that he was particularly careful.
6th August 2011, 00:16
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by Daniel

The problem is that di resta, unlike yourself does not have the ability to read minds therefore he left a margin to account for Lewis to move across as obviously Hamilton wasn't showing that he was particularly careful.

You're right, I can't read minds. I can only read posts and what they clearly mean.

Does anyone have a link to the official FIA inident reports? I'd like to see the FIA's actual reasoning on this and I can't find the link on their site?
6th August 2011, 10:28
Mia 01

Why are the police handing out harsh speed tickets to people speeding outside a school for example, they even take their driving licences if the speed is enough.
6th August 2011, 10:35
Dave B

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Originally Posted by Dave B

This is one of the funniest threads I've ever read! :laugh:

My opinion has not changed since posting that last week.
6th August 2011, 10:56
Allyc85

10 pages over an incident where nobody was hurt or cars damaged, that was swiftly dealt with by the stewards and sorted out by the drivers straight after the race?!

Some of you lot really need to get out more! :D
6th August 2011, 10:58
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Dave B

My opinion has not changed since posting that last week.

What did you say about me mother? :p Don't deny it! It's clear as day :p
6th August 2011, 11:10
pino

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Originally Posted by Allyc85

10 pages over an incident where nobody was hurt or cars damaged, that was swiftly dealt with by the stewards and sorted out by the drivers straight after the race?!

Some of you lot really need to get out more! :D

That's our F1 forum... love it or hate it ;)
6th August 2011, 11:32
Allyc85

I mock it ;)
6th August 2011, 11:52
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by Allyc85

10 pages over an incident where nobody was hurt or cars damaged, that was swiftly dealt with by the stewards and sorted out by the drivers straight after the race?!

Some of you lot really need to get out more! :D

Last year there was a 5-page thread about Lewis' new sideburns and ear studs. So, this doesn't surprise me. Nobody was surprised when Beckham or countless other celebrities have worn studs in their ears, but of course when it comes to Lewis, there are exceptions. ;)
6th August 2011, 11:53
Daniel

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

Last year there was a 5-page thread about Lewis' new sideburns and ear studs. So, this doesn't surprise me. Nobody was surprised when Beckham or countless other celebrities have worn studs in their ears, but of course when it comes to Lewis, there are exceptions. ;)

Why would people discuss Beckham in here though?
6th August 2011, 12:44
CaptainRaiden

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Why would people discuss Beckham in here though?

I didn't say people discussed Beckham here, it was a generalized statement regarding other sportsmen and their styles not bothering people. I saw at least 3 F1 forums discussing Lewis' sideburns and accessories.
6th August 2011, 13:23
Daniel

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Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden

I didn't say people discussed Beckham here, it was a generalized statement regarding other sportsmen and their styles not bothering people. I saw at least 3 F1 forums discussing Lewis' sideburns and accessories.

Tbh I think Lewis looks silly, but that's just my personal opinion and it doesn't affect my opinion of him as a driver. I would perhaps comment on a thread, but I certainly wouldn't start one.
6th August 2011, 13:29
steveaki13

Cantona and Ginola.

Just to stir it up. :D :p
6th August 2011, 16:00
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Daniel

you tell me that i wasn't saying what I said that I was saying

That about sums it up - you've proved several times over that you don't appear to know what you are typing.....
6th August 2011, 16:41
markabilly

Big Dan is right.

the side burns are giving him tunnel vision,

causing him not to see anybody in the mirrors except his own face
6th August 2011, 16:50
Daniel

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

That about sums it up - you've proved several times over that you don't appear to know what you are typing.....

Seriously, you are nothing more than a troll, you know exactly what I was saying and are siding with him just to score some points :rolleyes:
6th August 2011, 18:35
Daniel

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Originally Posted by henners88

I somehow doubt Lewis is the kind of guy that wears walking boots, and Gap chino's with a shirt tucked in either though? When you look at some of the drivers around the paddock like Liuzzi, and Schumacher who wouldn't know trendy fashion if it was written out on a naked girl and thrown on them, I think Lewis pulls off his style rather well in comparison. Its not to my taste if I'm honest though. Drivers like Alonso and Kubica don't try and be stylish and dress like normal blokes, although Alonso has started wearing a Kimi hat and multi coloured Oakley sunglasses lol.. Hmmmm. :eek:

and Alonso and Kimi wear the stupid caps....

Of course Lewis' fashion sense has nothing to do with the racing so although it's not my sort of taste it doesn't really bother me.
6th August 2011, 18:50
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Seriously, you are nothing more than a troll, you know exactly what I was saying and are siding with him just to score some points :rolleyes:

Oi, Quentin, come 'ere.........! N-n-n-nice to see you, to see you nice. What do points make?

Always liked a tale from the Black horse me.......... :laugh:
6th August 2011, 21:06
Daniel

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Oi, Quentin, come 'ere.........! N-n-n-nice to see you, to see you nice. What do points make?

Always liked a tale from the Black horse me.......... :laugh:

What are you on about? If you're trying to get a reaction out of me at least try and say something I can make sense of.
6th August 2011, 23:02
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Daniel

If you're trying to get a reaction out of me at least try and say something I can make sense of.

Sorry son, might be yours but that's not my game.
7th August 2011, 03:40
Daniel

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Sorry son, might be yours but that's not my game.

Well then kindly explain what you were on about?

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