Definetely not 196km/h average.Two times at limiter for few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
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Definetely not 196km/h average.Two times at limiter for few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Why did Patrik Flodin get 10 min penalty with only one stage missing? He just missed the last stage of the day winning SS6? Should be only 5 min in my humble opinion...
hmmmmm well depends on the gear ratio i think....sordo in bulgaria was at 216 km/hr and with no limiter onQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
That was completely different engine and gearing but that doesn't matter if You watch the real onboard. The tarmac part in the video is average speed let's say 150 km/h but hardly more.
Olivieras times are getting better and better i have to say!
different car Greg.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
From the incar video is obvious that 2 fast sections with some sec in limiter cant average 196 when most corners are with 4th-5th speed(120-150km/h about) and some even slower ones.To have this average means that you must have sections with over 230-250 km/h,and not just 2 times in limiter for few seconds.
If you miss the last stage, it's 10 min penalty. You can't get to superrally without at least 10 min penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
If you miss the last stage of the day, you cet +10:00 minutes automatically. nowadays you cannot get less than 10:00 minutes penalty for Superally. Otherwise it is 5 minutes per stage, but if you retire on the last stage or roadsection, then it is +10:00. If anyone gets less than 10:00, then it is timing error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
thanks. Loeb and Hirvonen and the others complain it is a terrible stage and they need all there attention to drive safely, while Latvalla has still time to correct the pace notes in a calm way. It sounded like he was driving relaxed on his way to the supermarket (don't forget the milk, and do we have meat for dinner tomorrow :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
We can see many spectators on the tarmac section. Maybe there are no tarmac events in Argentina.
Argentina 2011 Europe Stages Timing
Saturday 28
ES 8 (21,57 km) : 08h13. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 13h13.
ES 9 (16,57 km) : 09h46. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 14h46.
ES 10 (20,33 km) : 10h32. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 15h32.
ES 11 (21,36 km) : 11h13. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 16h13.
ES 12 (21,57 km) : 14h08. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 19h08.
ES 13 (16,57 km) : 15h41. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 20h41.
ES 14 (20,33 km) : 16h27. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 21h27.
ES 15 (21,36 km) : 17h08. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 22h08.
Sunday 29
ES 16 (48,21 km) : 08h09. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 13h09.
ES 17 (03,90 km) : 10h27. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 15h27.
ES 18 (03,02 km) : 11h38. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 16h38.
ES 19 (03,90 km) : 12h10. Paris Time UTC/GMT + 2 h : 17h10.
Indeed it looked relaxed. Had it been Timo Salonen, he propably would've light up a cigarette.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
25 minutes until the start...
And here we go again...
JM had "big moment".
What a great way to start the day. :D
Oh, yeah... they don't have the Road Book to see where to check in... there wasn't any yellor board 25m before... also any alien at the Time Control? :D :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
seems its going to be again a battle between latvala and Ogier......Loeb i think quits to avoid mistakes now and aim to win the power stage.
I wish rally radio would fix itself, crackling and cutting out. Good to see Latvala out in the lead after Day 1. Also nice that Daniel Elena proved he is only human after all.
Hopefully we can have Latvala take some points off Citroen at the end.
1. Such things can happen to anyone,if I remember it correctly, it has happened before in Argentina and happened even after him. There are always so many people in Argentina Rally and this is good thing, you just have to be more careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
2. I think we have too much noise for small thing. Other top drivers got it right? right?
3. Roadbook and rally. Rally is on the open roads and open to the people. When there are more people, then you just have to be more careful. When you see from the road book that you are close to the time control, then just send your co driver out to make sure you are in the right place in the right time!
4. You cannot always appeal to all penalties you get. I just does not look good. Sometimes you just have to admit that you made a mistake even if it was small one.
Semerád said that DMack made a big progress and their tyres work very well in Argentina and also they are very durable. Anyway yesterday he broke suspension over a stone on the road.
SS9?
They will as Hankook leapfrog in the beginning of development, but it is the last 10% up to Michelin and Pirelli that is hard to do !Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
bad stage for latvala so far...
Loeb pushes hard....what for?
it seems that Loeb decided to attack..............
maybe some good news from the time penalty issue ? i cannot see any other reason....
Testing for OgierQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Do we know if the penalty is finally decided? It hasn't been added to Loeb's time yet.
Remember NZ 2010 and the second leg......Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
ahaa.. there was a tire stop after the stage 8 and Loeb was the onlyone to take 4 new tires on. The trick is that if you changed tires after the stage 8, then those tires were deleted from your quota. And Loeb used his old tires from yesterday for stage 8. At the end of stage 11 we will see if it was good idea. He lost 12.2 sec to Ogier on SS8 (old rubber) and took 5.1 back now (new rubber).
Testing for Ogier ...
Don't say that :) You're going to make fall some hair which stay on the Quesnel head...
After SS9:
1) Latvala [Ford] 2:10:44.0
3) Solberg, P. [Citroen] +16.5
2) Ogier [Citroen] +15.0
4) Hirvonen [Ford] +41.9
5) Loeb [Citroen] +1:23.6 (pen: 1:00)
6) Ostberg [Ford] +3:22.3
7) Wilson [Ford] +3:56.6
8) Villagra [Ford] +4:08.5
9) Block [Ford] +8:24.3 (pen: 0:10)
For sure his attacking for Mikko.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Latvala can fend others off now but why Hirvonen isn't trying to catch the others?
Loeb very fast
Excelent time for Villagra taking Wilson's P7, also beated Ostberg.
Wilson got a puncture.
Latvala strikes back
After SS10:
1) Latvala [Ford] 2:21:31.2
2) Ogier [Citroen] +18.5
3) Solberg, P. [Citroen] +14.3
4) Hirvonen [Ford] +39.1
5) Loeb [Citroen] +1:14.4 (pen: 1:00)
6) Ostberg [Ford] +3:37.6
7) Villagra [Ford] +4:19.2
8) Wilson [Ford] +5:02.8
9) Block [Ford] +12:15.8 (pen: 0:10)
Loeb again faster at 2nd split