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Originally Posted by Saint Devote
You use a generally accepted nickname to suggest there is no nickname.
Huh?
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:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
You use a generally accepted nickname to suggest there is no nickname.
Huh?
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...and, as the man himself might very well say (and frequently did), more than anyone ever in the the history of motor sport :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
Hunt had another rhyming nickname that I cannot use here but it started with a 'c'.
To me Michael was 'TGF' short for 'That German Fellow'.
Brabham was 'Black Jack'.
If you want nicknames the WOO is the place.
Who can name:
The 'Dude' aka 'Catfish'
Slammin Sammy
Wild Child
The Hurricane
The King (that one is easy)
Fast Freddie
That is just a few.
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Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
Last three are;
Alex Higgins
Elvis Presley
Freddie Flintoff
I think!
Well... :p :
I have to admit before the season I was quite sceptical about Schumacher's comeback and it always seemed as a bigger risk compared to the possible benefits he could bring in performance. Already in the last seasons of his "previous career" his throne as the best driver was hanging in balance, so it was clear it was only going to be tougher now.
For performance Mercedes ought to have signed Heidfeld, but I guess the leaders and marketing gurus of MB couldn't grasp the thought of having two non-race winners, so they needed to take a gamble for publicity with a risk of failure. As we know, had Button stayed at Brawn/Mercedes, Schumacher would have never been considered, because JB was a defending WDC and as a result clearly a "big enough name" to satisfy the marque. However, even though I don't consider Heidfeld any worse than Button, opting for two "unknown" drivers seemed too "low" for MB. :\
If Mercedes want another WDC they should hire someone else.
I love his comeback . He shouldn't quit in the first place . He is till on his old form . The car just didn't suit him at all . Remember he switch to Mercedes GP late ? The car was meant for Button . I'll wait for the monster within him to awakes .
Welcome to the forum Zerox.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZEROX
Is this the "Great" Schumacher we are talking about? The driver who can wring the best out of a crappy car and drag a Minardi around quick enough to win Races? :laugh:
The Mercedes isn't that bad but MS isn't getting anywhere near the best out of it. Rosberg has had the same time in the cockpit and is doing OK and Rosberg's driving style is nothing like Buttons.
You have to say that Schumacher being 60 points behind his team mate on a mere 44 points is very poor and if this was any other driver, we would be asking WTF Mercedes are doing dragging this dead-wood around.
At the end of the day, it results that talk isn't it? We can come up with some valid specific excuses but if the mighty Schumacher cannot drive a car unless it's built around him, the electronics, the chassis, the tyres, the handling etc, then the question has to be asked "was he that good in the first place or was it all the excellent design team around him"?
It might be blasphemy for asking in some peoples eyes but this is the first time we've seen him in a new team with a driver that has the same race time in the car and equal treatment.
All things being equal, it doesn't look that impressive.
Growing old sucks. :( And it happens to everyone, unfortunately. :bigcry:
better than the alternative.....one can never have too many birthdays and years....Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Speak for yourself... Wrinkley :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Now, where did I leave my Mobility Scooter?
Well, you have to say that Monza was a chance to shine.
He has been mighty around here in the past wut just looked outclassed on Sunday.
People might like to keep him in F1 for personal reasons but can anyone justify keeping him in for next year on his performance this season?
Certainly if you took the Schumacher name out of it and look on his a random driver you have to say that Mercedes should keep Rosberg next year and look around for some fresh talent for the second seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
Eddie Jordan was suggesting that Mercedes was not a happy camp at the moment, that he saw a number of drivers/managers in the team motorhome during the weekend, and he seems to feel Michael will not be back next year.
Ross Brawn denied such things.
Time will tell.
They'd do much better by trying to get Raikkonen back into F1 and driving for them!
That's not a bad shout but I would like to see Sutil get a crack. This would see a very talented and exciting lineup for the German team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Donīt they have to buy out MS first, will he quit at will?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I think MS will consider it better to work in a consulting role to "help" Mercedes get a championship winning car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Problem is that very few people rated Rosberg too highly and I was one of the lone voices predicting Schumacher might be beaten. Since then, I have been labeled a "hater" for being correct :laugh:
Also, we must remember that this is last years winning car and has been developed by pretty much the same people. It's arguable that it might have won again this year in different hands... Not wanting to take anything away from young Nico but I don't think he's Tier A.
I am afraid that after one year in WRC Kimi might too find difficult returning in F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
If Schumacher quits, then it was always thought that Heidfeld is a shoe-in to replace him. But if Nick now ties himself with Sauber long-term, then it would be interesting, how could arise as an alternative. IIRC Eddie Jordan was the first man to predict Schumi's comeback for 2010, so who knows, maybe he knows the man better than others. :p :
http://twitter.com/legardj/status/24651539106Quote:
Hearing that Sutil is leading contender to replace Schumacher at season's end IF he leaves Mercedes. Sutil out of contract at Force India
They must be reading this thread Arrows.Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
You're sitting on it, Mr. Alzheimer! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
Sorry, what were we talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by maximilian
Speaking of which, Schumys may well end up running the Mercedes team with Brawn at this rate with Nico and Adrian.
no no don't retire - wait til JV gets back and kicks your ass in a new car!!
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Originally Posted by henners88
Unfortunately you are probably correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Schumacher is back? Since when? :p :
Great second session for Schumi yesterday. Second behind a Red Bull first time out at this circuit. Hopefully he can carry this to Quali and the race.
He's heading out in the third session now...
Sorry mate but he's just too slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
Nothing to do with age or his bike injury or his knowledge of the track or the team. He is just slow when he's not automatic #1 and the best car.
Time to let Sutil see what he can do.
Funny that just when Heidfeld has left Mercedes, suddenly rumours have risen about Sutil. Just amazing, how Nick always manages to be at the wrong place, especially if the movement of Sutil materializes.
why nick is not signed for next year - he is available
This is a very foolish post. It is obvious that Michael has made an unsuccessful comeback, like many other sportsmen, including Michael Jordan. But to deny his success in the past is petty and immature.Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
I am happy that he is in the Top 10 and I hope that he will have a good race tomorrow.
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Also Michael won 2 titles for Benetton with probably not the best car at the time. Look at Michael v his Benetton team mates in 94 & 95, he was dominating races, while Lehto, Verstappen and Herbert often ran 10th to 15th in races.
I know these 3 drivers were not the best but he was finishing a few positions ahead, he was 10 positions and 1 or 2 laps ahead of them. He clearly got way more out of the Benetton than most others could have.
Also the early Ferrari years Mclaren had the best car but Schumacher still matched them.
So to say he only won while in the best car is wrong.
He is struggling this year but I hope he gets one more year.
One final point. I know Nakajima was poor, but Rosberg beat him hands down last year by miles, where as Michael is at least in sight of Rosberg.
So he is hardly the worst driver around.
The problem is people are only seeing him compared to his glory years, but if you look at him as another driver he is where a lot of team mates are a few tenths behind their team mate.
He is only driving now for the fun of it, so as long as he is doing that, and Mercedes are happy to keep him, and he's not a danger then, why are people jumping down his throat.
Enjoy the racing.
(Except for the move on Rubens. I am aware that was stupid and a serious mistake, but besides that my point I feel stands)
F1 is not meant to be "just for fun" - he ought to opt for Superleague Formula or something like that if this is the argument. F1 is serious business. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
You take life to seriously. If not for fun, then for what?? Fair point if you say replace Schumacher because he is always 3tenth and 4 places slower/lower than Rosberg. But it is rather invalid argument to say that Schumacher should leave because he is having fun despite the bad results.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Very good post and I think that even in the case of Rubens there war much noise because of the drivers involved. We saw, I think in LMS, a similar accident and nobody was whining. Still, jens might have a point, I think that Mike would have made a better impression in a Le Mans series championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by aki13
I assume my point was misunderstood. I don't mean that a driver shouldn't have fun as such in F1, but it shouldn't be an argument for a team to hire a driver. "Oh he wants to have fun, so let's sign him." That's a non-argument. What is an argument for a team to hire a driver, is that he should first and foremost be highly competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daika
I don't know, how much pressure he had from the owners of Mercedes, but I suspect in late-2009 Ross Brawn for a moment lost a bit of his usual highly rational attitude and let the feelings interfere with his decisions: "It would be just so great to work and have fun with my old colleague Schumacher again," leaving the possible performance factors aside.
Well
I think it was a few things.
Schumacher wanted another crack after recharging his batteries, so agreed to drive for Mercedes.
As for Mercedes, they get the Publicity of Schumi's return, (pre Season) the chance of schumi and Brawn combination working and the hope Schumi would be competative.
All in all I am sure Mercedes must have wanted to sign him, they weren't forced too.
They obivously found some common ground, which let Schumi race again with less pressure than at Ferrari and in return Mercedes get what they wanted, otherwise why sign him? and why not let him go now if they are not happy.,
Maybe it is because they believe he is doing OK in not a great car against a good team mate who is in good form, and maybe with a different car next year they still think he made be a good bet.
I got your point from a teammanager point of view. Having fun is ofcourse no reason for Ross Brawn to hire Schumacher. But i think this will be at least a 2 year project.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens