Briscoe crashes out of 7th, hit Rahal
EDIT: GR simply drove into the back of Briscoe, very naughty piece of driving there
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Briscoe crashes out of 7th, hit Rahal
EDIT: GR simply drove into the back of Briscoe, very naughty piece of driving there
Rahal punted Briscoe
Tracy, Viso and Matos all crash within 2 corners of each other
Yellow out again
These are professional race car drivers? What a joke, all of them. Every single one of them...well maybe Will and Dario.
Hunter Reay slams into Dixon
Wilson spins out of 2nd
Tagliani and Scheckter crash out in turn 1
Very hectic 2 laps eh? :laugh:
it a demo derby out there
Plenty of beneficiaries from the madness out there, most notably Simona de Silvestro having her best run of the season up in 8th
Wilson's on a charge too already getting back up to 9th
Has Moraes ever heard of Blue Flags?
Congrats to Will Power for the win! Danica ran a great race, finishes P6!!
wow i missed the crash with briscoe, my two favorite drivers hitting each other, sad day. anyone have a clip of that crash
Not the best advert for driving standards but at least it was decent entertainment
Wilson's late charge up to 7th just made me think what he could have done had he not spun out of 2nd a while back.
outside of the top 5 that finished, and Justin Wilson, it was a pretty poor showing by every other driver out there today, although Simona did a great job getting her first top 10, but much like with Danica, all the passing came pretty much with the expense of everyone else racing hard and crashing.
I think Danica only passed Marco for a position and that was it.
Will Power just showed hes the man in the Indy Cars this year, so glad to see him get another victory
Good race, good crowd, enough crashes and close racing for the casual fan, it was a good race to have ABC. Will Power looked excited, showed some personality and Verizon will do some adds next week congratulating him on his win... everything's good.
More like that please
one more lap and he would've finished 6th. Justin did a great job charging back through the fieldQuote:
Originally Posted by DazzlaF1
Here are the final results..
1.#12 Will Power
2. #10 Dario Franchitti
3. #37 Ryan Hunter-Reay
4. #11 Tony Kanaan
5. #02 Graham Rahal
6. #7 Danica Patrick
7. #22 Justin Wilson
8. #26 Marco Andretti
9. #78 Simona De Silvestro
10. #4 Dan Wheldon
11. #14 Vitor Meira
12. #06 Hideki Mutoh
13. #15 Paul Tracy
14. #32 Mario Moraes
15. #24 Tomas Scheckter
16. #36 Bertrand Baguette
17. #77 Alex Tagliani
18. #6 Ryan Briscoe
19. #8 EJ Viso
20. #9 Scott Dixon
21. #2 Raphael Matos
22. #34 Mario Romancini
23. #19 Alex Lloyd
24. #3 Helio Castroneves
25. #5 Takuma Sato
26. #18 Milka Duno
I agree with MDS that it was exciting, entertaining, and all the good press that comes with it. Glad also to hear the crowd was good, remember they are rebuilding this event. The track certainly lends itself to entertaining racing. Lots of drivers benefitted today from the lunacy out there. I wish PT could've kept his rig running, he ends up somewhere between 5th and 8th if no for that miscue. Sorry for J-Dub though....ugggh. Danica did run well, not 6th place well, but she was competitive in the top 12 all day and most of the weekend so easily her best road/street race.
It was a crashfest today. Danica had this course mastered this weekend. Im proud of her. Look out Edmonton, here she comes!
Everytime she does something halfway respectable you say something stupid and ruin it for her. Just stop talking/posting and she'll retain more fans. The way part timers PT and Graham drove away from her and Justin caught her on that last stint, if she has the course mastered I'd like to know what their classification is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
I thought I would watch the IRL race today at Toronto - BIG MISTAKE.
The last time I watched the Indy 500 was when Montoya showed just how good he is and how inferior the rest of the drivers were.
Today the Indt 500 is dead and buried. I do watch the races at Texas because THAT is the only track where this one make formula works well.
Today demonstrated that either its a stupid short circuit or the drivers are pretty substandard.
This single-seater series has become the home for non-American drivers unable to find a drive in European racing.
No matter what they do it is not going to work. The original idea was for an oval series using American machinery and with lots of American drivers - thats a good formula.
If it were 10 races on oval tracks that could put on shows as they usually fo in Texas, then people like myself and others from the lower echelons of racing such as NASCAR would watch.
Indy racing is finished because there is essentially no connection to anything American witin the series.
You think that American race fans are stupid? There is a reason why the Indy series is where it is today and it is not going to be improved by silly gimmicks as announced this past week.
I had good will towards this series - I remember the CART days which were just superb.
But when CART collapsed the idea for an oval openwheel series was sound.
Where exactly does Indy fit today? Nowhere, and ridiculous road street circuits where every corner looks the same and the drivers too incompetent to drive without a caution every handful of laps is just a road to nowhere.
Openwheel racing deserves to die in the US and it will not be missed - today was a display of incompetent driving at its worst dominated by the only teams that are going to win anything in that series - Ganassi or Penske - yawn.....zzzzzz!
Good driving by about 6 or 7 drivers including the Princess and Simona. The rest of them would be at home in a figure 8 race.
Milk and Donuts should have been flagged off sooner. Even the commentators said so.
A lot of repair work for a lot of teams with a long haul to Edmonton.
Been there, done that!
Will Power wins again ... yawn.
it was a competitive race with lots of passing and a bif of bif - what more do you want?
you get out of the wrong side of your bed this morning?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
There has been a LOT of silliness on many racing forums today for some reason. I attribute it to hot weather and adult beverages.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBARUTEAM
Either that, or there was a mass release from psychiatric hospitals.
LOL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
i agree. I beleive its very simple - if you don't like it, don't watch it.
Mastered ?
You have got to F'en kidding me
Mastered? If she "mastered" the weekend, why was she not on the top step on the podium?Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
I kinda laugh that you still think shes a rookie of some sort. shes been in the IRL long enough to know these cars inside and out, yet still got outrun by Rahal who was running with his 3rd team this year. and if there was another lap, Justin would've passed her.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
the media loves going gaga over her for her awesome 6th place finish, but seriously, shes a veteran now, 6 years in the series and post a decent finish, albit around 8 drivers ahead of her in the race all crashed.
Graham drove a silent 5th place finish and so did RHR with a 3rd, yet the media could talk about his how amazing this "deadbeat" is with a 6th.
Simona took a 9th, and she did a good job, but I dont believe she passed a single soul either, but with her being in her first season with the car and at the track, I give a bigger thumbs up to her over a 6 year vet who can only manage this when everyone in front crashs out.
not to burst your small bubble, but she'll be back in the norm at Edmonton, basically lost on the track
This was a typical Danicker points-collecting race.
Stay out of the way and wait for all the boneheads (and we have a TON of boneheads in this series) to screw up. Keep moving up the order and get a good finish.
I can actually accept that as a street course tactic. Won't win you the event, but it'll get you decent points so isn't necessarily to be dismissed quite so readily. That said, to use it as an example of track mastery is clearly absurd, especially when 11 people qualified better and 5 people finished higher, but then I think we've all come to expect that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
i'd call that smart racing. if she was a man, would you guys be so critical of her?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
the issue is that the top guys are really good racers who would not look out of place in F1. to be able to race against these guys is a credit to her.
I say cut her some slack.
We're not criticising her directly, its the almost constant bigging up by certain fans and the media we're sick of. We'd still get it if she finished 2 laps down in 20th only because she is the supposed "big attraction"Quote:
Originally Posted by SUBARUTEAM
FYI, you can only count Moraes once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SUBARUTEAM
After watching Robin Miller's take on the race it made me wonder if we saw the same race?!!!
I think there is a fundamental difference between people like myself who have been reared on British-European racing with Formula One as the standard and those in countries like the US and Canada.
Last season in the DTM there was a period which culminated in a particular race which was almost as boisterous as Toronto and it resulted in very strict groundrules being laid down - to the point that some said it would discourage overtaking attempts.
I guess its like the BP versus US situation. Someone like myself have been disgusted at how the US governmnt led the attack in America on a private company as if BP WANTED the spill and did not have the MOST to lose if it was not plugged qucickly as possible.
I think the cultural difference between people in the US and so many other countries is very real - so it was today.
So I'm clear on our cultural divide, you're saying that ZERO on track passing and constant post race manipulation are the standards for "excitement" in motorsports? If that is what makes European racing special, you can keep it over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
What a load. The most to lose? Try asking all those who made their livelihood on the gulf coast. It's called responsibility. It's BP's mess, they have to own up to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
I often agree with Saint Devote but not today. That said there was a lot of very sloppy driving and Hail Mary passing attempts.
Further I think the Princess drove well and a smart race. No she sure didn't master the course but she was fairly aggressive and reasonably quick. She made several runs on Tags going into 3 but was smart enough to see that if she forced the issue they would hit, unlike several others. It was clear her car was quicker down the Lakeshore but also that Tags was quicker around the twisty sections.
I think everyone on here knows my normal thoughts on her!
I agree that if Chad (Danica Fan) would tone it down she wouldn't get as much flak on here.
The regular media, especialy ABC hype her, probably with pressure from IC.
The real racing media are backing off big time, at least most of them.
I also remember Mark Webber basically getting crucified on this and other forums for basically what Helio did today!
If you're trolling, you're doing a very good job of it :) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
I'll give Danica some credit for today. She did what she does best, which is to run her own race, block, and stay out of trouble. She let all the "racers" battle it out and crash while she steadily moved up the field.
As far as the race itself, I watched it off and on and it seemed kinda amateurish at points, but it was fairly entertaining. ABC's broadcast team is definitely lacking, but overall I think the IRL came out of Toronto with another good street race on the books.
Some funny post-race reactions, particularly on Twitter between Scheckter and Tags. Rahal also went after Briscoe on there.
^^Idk who side to be on, graham and ryan my two faves. However, it looks like ryan went after graham first on twitter
Wow, just checked out grahams twitter and him and briscoe are fueding back and forth, i really want to see this clip. was briscoe blocking rahal?