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Now with Penske he is with a team giving him a very good set up for the ovals. He may not be the first candidate for wins there, but top 5 finishes with this car should be very realistic. So he will score important points there, and maybe thats all he needs if he stays that superior on the road circuits!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Pit strategy is part of the game, like it or not. Danica held them all up, but she wasn't bad enough that the others could pass. Franchitti showed how easy it was to pass if you were better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
I am a long time lurker and occasional poster on this board. I also have been in and around the internet since before the world wide web (WWW) and been on countless message boards, newsgroups, etc and feel like I really need to point something out to my fellow race enthusiasts. -->Danicafan is a troll. <-- A classic, internet chatroom, newsgroup, bulletin board troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
From Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Danicafan knows that even the mention of Danica Patrick sets a lot of people off. She further knows that her incessent cheerleading and her "she can do no wrong" postings will further incite people. She does it all on purpose just to get the reaction.
Best way to deal with a troll -> ignore them. They will eventually go away.
BZ
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Originally Posted by bzcam
Let's see. A guy is a fan of a racer, supports them and cheers them on, never says anything bad about any of the other drivers on the track or posters on this site and he's the troll?
I don't care how long you've been on posting on the net, you're nuts.
Decent job Danica. Again, you finished in front of everyone else on your team.
He's very good - he clearly has you duped.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
BZ
Yeah. That's it. He fooled me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzcam
If anyone looks like a troll it's you. I will follow your advise though & ignore you from here on out.
I think you are the troll here. DanicaFan, although misguided and sometimes overbearing in HIS cheerleading of Danica, is a passionate knowledgable race fan who brings a lot o the discussions on this forum. I admire DanicaFan's devotion to the sport and to his favorite driver. So please be sure of what you are posting before you say anything that offends people. DanicaFan is a HE BTW, and you would know this if you were a member of the motorsportforum community. Have a good day. and to DanicaFan... more power to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzcam
X2 <IGNORE>Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Danica was horrible today as usual. A 7th place finish where she litterally didn't pass a single car all day long. Now before I get too hyped up, Matos did the same thing. Those 2 ran the same strategy and both had qualified at the back, hence they finished together. Yes strategy is part of the equation in racing so no points will be deducted from those 2 but 7th and 8th place don't exactly show how they were outperformed all weekend by 22 other cars as a whole. Strategy helped a ton of people today, seems at St. Pete every year there are many different strategies that can pan out. Notice Briscoe finished 3rd after starting at the back.
Mechanical failures took Wheldon and Viso out of top 10's (top 5 for Viso)ahead of the 2 point pickers. Kanaan got hammered, Marco had a tire, Simona got punted, and Dixon made a mistake (very rare for him). That isn't even counting Conweasel and Sato's boneheaded mistakes. It is all part of racing, but all those drivers were outperforming Matos and Patrick...they were fortunate beneficiaries.
All I'm pointing out here is that look at the performance, not the result. DF "doesn't want to hear anything bad about here on a roadcourse again...". Obviously you're not looking at the performance. 7th & 8th for her and Matos today is a salvage. That isn't exactly anything to get excited about.
This. How does she do this so consistantly? Kanaan is truly a great driver. Marco and Ryan are fast, good at road courses, etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Sorry, who cares about Danica.
Nice work by Will Powers.
Isn't it nice to have a driver in the series, who not only consistantly finishes well but also that fans never get tired of talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
How much does it suck to be Marco Andretti right now?
You really need a win, you're at a street course, which as a former F-1 Hopeful you're good at, and Graham Rahal jumps into the seat at one of the smallest teams with the least amount of experience and engineering support and beats you soundly?
Seriously, couldn't be more impressed with Graham this weekend. He took a car that was four-seconds off the back of the pack at Barber and brought it home 8th... Good job kid.
Apparently just about everybody, because any thread where her name is mentioned instantly creates a 8/10 page debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by e2mtt
But as usual, you keep adding to it? Not sure what logic you have when you are one of the facilitators. But thats not unusual for your posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Hey, I've got no problem with talking about Danica (or any other driver). It's like you just want people to agree with you and then shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
No I agree...discuss away. Thats what makes us fans! I thought you were sort of complaining that every discussion that involves Danica was out of line or somehting? I misunderstood you then.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Unrelated....HOOP where are the stats? I can't seem to find any. Curious how Graham ended up fast lap wise. When live timing was up he was in the low 104's. Seemed like he made a lot of progress with the SFR team...good to see. Hope that looks good for Barber.
DanicaFan is not a troll, he is one of the most enthusiastic IndyCar Series fans on this board, who also happens to be a big fan of one particular driver as well. As such, his judgements are not always realistic but the cynical attitude of other members towards him is simply disgusting. This is the only reason that makes me root for Danica in every race despite not being a fan of her. The detractors are the reason I am happy if she finishes well. Like today. ;)
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Originally Posted by TURN3
OK. No problem, just a misunderstanding. Cheers.
http://i44.tinypic.com/veuo80.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
rh
Probably a safe bet all things considered. We know for a fact Power, Briscoe, Castro-Neves, Dixon, Franchitti, Wilson, Kanaan, and RHR will be ahead of her. That leaves 2 spots for Marco or Graham to compete with her for. Although pretty much every other driver in the field is faster than her, I don't see any of them finishing enough races. But I'd say the likelihood of somebody like Viso winning a race is higher than it is for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Thanks Hoop, he didn't get down quite as low as I thought. Still, really impressed with the entire SFR team this weekend as well as HVM. Too bad Wheldon broke, looks like Panther is a little racier so far this year on the roadies. Not a big fan of Dan but would like to see the team get better results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoop-98
Do I get any brownie points for predicting Milk and Donuts would be out of the race with either handling or brake problems by lap 10?
no, because everyone knows that she is absolute rubbish on road/street coursesQuote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
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Originally Posted by ChicagocrewIRL
...find sand...insert head...funny
It's clear gang, DF says the things she says only to incite responses. She's very good at it. Don't blame me for pointing it out.
You don't salivate when you hear bells ring, do you?
BZ
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Originally Posted by MDS
a great run for SFR!
whats really truly scary is your wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by bzcam
*and shes a he
she didnt run a great race......she ran a safe race....it sure would be nice if you would acknowledge the differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by DanicaFan
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Originally Posted by DanicaFan
Well whether you want to or not you will. She stunk today as she always does on a road course. The only reason she finished where she did was a) she caught a lucky yellow and b) she blocked everyone behind her. Did you see that HUGE gap in front of her near the end and the trail of cars behind her?
Gary
Really guys, come on - its blatently clear from the things (s)he has written over the years that she get some kind of enjoyment out of the debate that occurs afterward. It's classic troll stuff. She says, "Danica will win the Indy 500 poll and win the race", and 20 guys come out of the woodwork to tell her that she's wrong. That's what trolls do. Read the definition again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
I come to this group to learn a few things about the IRL that I can't find in the trades. I have seen the pattern with DF repeated over and over again in almost every thread. She makes some idiotic comment about DP and people respond. She loves every minute of it. DF is a troll.
Don't be mad at me for pointing out the obvious.
BZ
PS - if you think I'm a troll, go back and read the 50+ posts that I have on here and see if I fit the definition.
he will never say anything like that :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
how do you think she won her one race, and basically every one of her finishes, always plays it safe.
has she ever passed a CGR or Penske car with under 20 to go on a oval?
but back to the topic of the race, I see Mark was correct in saying this was Wills race to lose, see what happens when you put a very talented driver in a good car, he dominates and makes people look silly, very happy to see Will kicking ass this season, and could very well be the top runner for the title as long as he can be average on ovals, and with a Penske car, I think he can "pull a Danica" and stay in the 6-10 spots enough and attack to the road courses to keep the points up.
great to see Rahal give SFR a top 10, I'm sure Sarah was absolutely happy with that result
Enough about Danica, let's talk about the real First Lady of Indycar.
Front page of indycar.com:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8673/indy01.jpg
Anyone noticed how the camera was desperately trying to keep her in frame during the post-race interview? Or was that just my imagination? :andrea:
They had a victory girl in Brazil too, but I don't know if it was the same one.
What is blatantly clear is you are clueless to the fact that as pointed out DanicaFan is male. And while I do think there is a certain amount of enjoyment on his part in the mêlée that follows his posts, he is NOT doing so for that reason alone. He is a die hard fan of Danica. If you'd bother to dig back thru the archives here you'd find the pictures of his HUGE collection of Danica-phrenalia.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzcam
He may be delusional, but he's no troll.
Gary
no one is mad at you.... Or thinks your a trollQuote:
Originally Posted by bzcam
but like I said your wrong
the dude just isn't smart enough to be a troll ..... He believes the rediculous things he writes
but hey .... What ever cools your keg
And the top post of the thread goes to.........Lousada!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Guys, I think I know where bz is coming from. From time to time I waver on if DFan says ridiculous things just to get the rise or if he actually believes what he imagines. Either way, no less ridiculous right?
By the way, as the self-proclaimed top Danica hater, somebody mentioned she was blocking. She didn't block as far as I seen this entire race, which is a first. She was incredibly slow but Matos wasn't any better. The fact all those cars were held up is because Matos and Patrick were just quick enough down the straight and nobody would risk passing in the back. They got there via strategy, it counts, they got 7th and 8th and the guys behind didn't get around them so it is what it is. They both still stunk it up all weekend. Can you believe Matos is 5th in points!!? Talk about pulling a Danica...geez. That guy hasn't sniffed within 1 second of the top cars so far this year.
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Originally Posted by MDS
I have to disagree on this one. I'm doubt Marco is going top be in the same class as his dad, yet alone his grandfather, but I thought that this was one of the best races I've seen from him. He showed real speed in qualifying and was fantastic in the opening laps of the race. His passes to take the lead on cold tires and a slick track were terrific. It was a short lived lead, but he still was running towards the front for the first half of the race. He had a unplanned pitstop for tires after he ran over debris from someones accident. He lost his track position and had to fight his way back to 12th. He was quicker than Rahal this weekend and was in the same train behind Danica that Graham was at the finish. Oh, Graham was 9th, not 8th. This was a step forward from the usual 12th place finish that Marco tends to get.
Some may consider DanicaFan's devotion to one driver a "bit" excessive, but his is knowledgeable, always respectful to other posters, and never degrades another driver. As you point out, he is certainly no troll. I don't agree with him on most topics, but I do applaud him on the respect he shows for others.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
well in truth he leads the anti-respect brigade in regards to Milka.....and if would have read his PM to me the other day you might night find him so respectfulQuote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
Well if Danica Fan is a she Chad sure has done one heck of a make up job on pictures I have seen of him with Danica.
He knows racing and I suspect he likes getting a rise out of us, which he does. I also enjoy ribbing him but bear no animosity towards him.
Besides messing with a cop ain't smart! :D :eek:
At this stage Simona's strengths are her weakness and Danica's weaknesses are her strength.
Let me qualify this, we are not talking about RC/SC winners here, at this stage.
Danica was underagressive, lost lot's of time but this mitigated by cautions.
Simona charged, but burned off her reds, soon after her great lap time she was lapping at 1:07s.
Danica slowly advanced to 1;05s and was running 2 seconds a lap faster than Simona but way in the back till caution.
Danica's cautious, slow pace moved her up.
Simona's aggressive pass on Graham was nice, but she got grammed soon.
Danica's disciplined use of her red's let her finish in 7th.
Simona, IMO, has way more upside, but Danica get's good results out of her mediocre speed, which is a skill in itself, that Simona will likely learn.
Simona will not win yet , but I personally prefer her style and future.
Until she starts finishing in front of Danica for a season, her speed is cool, but results are what counts.
Oval will be a bit of a turn of the tables.
I predict Danica another 5th or 6th, turtlewise, and Simona , 13th or `14th, hare wise this year.
I prefer speed, but we count finishes,
rh
is he policeman or a security guard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
because there is a big difference
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Originally Posted by Hoop-98
speak for yourself....
I count wins, then championships, then aggressiveness then finishes.....ill take harewise over turtlewise any day of the week and twice on raceday...
YMMV