WRC moves to Motors TV

90 minutes of highlights on RaiSport+ (Italian tv) at 16:30 CET

http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/homeTv.html

Just click on the RaiSport+ logo and watch it free! :D

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Glad to read im not the only one whos not happy with the coverage.

I dont mind the camera work but the commentator is so boring and dosnt seem to have much knowledge and it feels like he needs a rally expert next to him to add some feedback.

Will be watching Daves coverage tonight, hopefully that has improved alot!

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Originally Posted by Allyc85

Glad to read im not the only one whos not happy with the coverage.

I dont mind the camera work but the commentator is so boring and dosnt seem to have much knowledge and it feels like he needs a rally expert next to him to add some feedback.

Will be watching Daves coverage tonight, hopefully that has improved alot!

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Dave only get their coverage off North One - so it won't be much different. I think the time has come to sort the in car cameras - they're just too far back. It hasn't always been like this.

That's new onboard camera's they were talking about..

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Originally Posted by Motorsportfun

90 minutes of highlights on RaiSport+ (Italian tv) at 16:30 CET

http://www.rai.tv/dl/RaiTV/homeTv.html

Just click on the RaiSport+ logo and watch it free! :D

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only if ur Italian :(

I just watched the first 20 minutes of Friday nights coverage and tbh it was far better than the Dave/ISC crapola that we've had before though not as good as the IRC monte coverage.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I just watched the first 20 minutes of Friday nights coverage and tbh it was far better than the Dave/ISC crapola that we've had before though not as good as the IRC monte coverage.

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Don't worry it will get worse. To the point where you actually lose interest in what is going on.

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Originally Posted by curry

I got to the chance being in Australia to watch the local coverage which is the same as last years Eurosports coverage (not sure who the production team is) and I compared it to the Motors coverage. Night and day is the answer when comparing.

Yes Motors are producing an extra 23 minutes coverage (adds excluded) but its seems to me that all this extra is just onboards, which is useless on the Citroen's. The coverage just seemed about cars driving through the forest; forgive my ignorance but weren't they in a race and if so its the broadcasters duty to explain the race situation as it unfolds not just show the top 4 cars! Overall it was a very disjointed coverage that wasn't helped by a very average commentator.

As a comparison, the 'old coverage team' opened day 1 with highlights from the Karlstad super special and explained what happened to Petter. This was done by Motors in a quick one line sentence with no pictures.

I would have no idea how someone that doesn't have any rally knowledge could possibly follow the rally with this coverage. If I was North One I would be furious as I can't see how Motors are doing anything in promoting the WRC to new viewers.

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Was ONE doing the commentary? Australians or what was it?

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Originally Posted by Viridian Black

only if ur Italian :(

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Geoblocking? :(

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Was ONE doing the commentary? Australians or what was it?

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I have only seen the Shakedown preview for Sweden on ONE, but the commentary was done by the same guy who did it on Eurosport last year.. Its was a really good show, ill watch tonight and see how it goes :)

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Was ONE doing the commentary? Australians or what was it?

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It's the old Eurosport coverage of last year for the whole weekend.

How was the coverage on Dave? I decided to stay up and watch the Motors tv coverage and carefully avoided any results of the rally.

Saw sunday's highlights from Motors today. Cannot understand the amount of complainings here, does so many like to whine here?

I think it was far more better than what we had last year and Yes, I do like more incars. Last year we had more talking and less driving, I saw the opposite from Motors today. Lots of driving footage and not so much meaningless chit-chat. Ofcourse, there is still a lot to improve, but I quite liked what i saw.
Wish they could show more SWRC and PWRC guys as well.

I liked the show too. :) I think they said that PWRC and SWRC will be showed in a later show . . .

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Originally Posted by JFL

I liked the show too. :) I think they said that PWRC and SWRC will be showed in a later show . . .

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Good :) , I will stay tuned for PWRC and SWRC as well then. Specially I liked the S2000 show in Sweden, very nice cars and nice driving by top guys and would very much like to see some action footage.

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Originally Posted by cali

Saw sunday's highlights from Motors today. Cannot understand the amount of complainings here, does so many like to whine here?

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Sunday's show was much better in that they actually spent time on people outside the top four other than Marcus and Kimi. Still think the show needs a lot of work especially repositioning some on the in car cams if they are going to use them extensively. The in car cam on the Citroen is next to useless under braking due to the downwards pitch moment.

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Originally Posted by curry

Sunday's show was much better in that they actually spent time on people outside the top four other than Marcus and Kimi. Still think the show needs a lot of work especially repositioning some on the in car cams if they are going to use them extensively. The in car cam on the Citroen is next to useless under braking due to the downwards pitch moment.

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Agree most of your point written, but still I can no understand the amount of whining here. Seems like everything new is BAD.
A bit more exterior shots would be nice as well, but I did not saw a single cameraman at the stages, only exception was Colin's crest. Ofcourse there is still a lot to improve, but I liked what I saw and I like the idea that Motors does not stick to the "old and safe" option, but is willing to change things. Commentator has to improve as well, but he wasn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by Sulland

Who is the commentator, and what rally background does he have ?

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He is Simon Hill, and he's been Eurosport's IRC commentator since halfway through 2007.

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What material do they get from North One Sport to work with ?

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They get five minutes of "news" footage, some interviews and a big pile of onboards.

Have just got back from spectating on the rally,and having spent the last 3 hours watching the show i think it is a massive improvement on previous years.A few minor changes and and the show will be as good as you can get on showing rallying highlights.
The onboards are brilliant and as long as they keep mixing up the drivers they show, i am more than happy.

It is very impressive the speed they are turning our Lessons Identified into their Lessons Learned from our inputs into their Forum !
http://www.motorstv.com/forums/car/wrc

This is a sign that they are willing to learn and improve, and that is rare in the TV world today !

Important to give cred where needed, and not only criticize !

If Motors TV can help North One Sport improve, by giving in their wishes and requirements this can get very good !

Nice to see some people enjoyed it. I'm glad some did, but they obviously like their rally coverage to be around 25% exterior footage.

Someone said they moved away from the 'safe' format of previous years. Are you kidding me. So now is showing exterior action shots of cars and sponsors safe? To me all they have done is extend the awful parts of previous years coverage.

Obviously some people like to view their 3 days of rally action from the perspective of someone inside a mail box in the back of a rally car. It's nice those five people have a show they can be proud of.

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Nice to see some people enjoyed it. I'm glad some did, but they obviously like their rally coverage to be around 25% exterior footage.

Someone said they moved away from the 'safe' format of previous years. Are you kidding me. So now is showing exterior action shots of cars and sponsors safe? To me all they have done is extend the awful parts of previous years coverage.

Obviously some people like to view their 3 days of rally action from the perspective of someone inside a mail box in the back of a rally car. It's nice those five people have a show they can be proud of.

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Get a life. It was still better than the ISC **** that's been dished up over recent years.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Get a life. It was still better than the ISC **** that's been dished up over recent years.

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Difference of opinion. That's fine.

It was all ISC ****. Still is. Just packaged in various different forms. Coverage is hugely important so it frustrates me. Imagine theoretically if someone from VW was watching that Motors coverage. You dont get in to rallying so people can see the quality of your interiors. We've seen onboards work live. This aint live. What will a British sponsor like Stobart think? What does any sponsor get out of that? Their brands are receiving 60% less coverage.

An hour long show each leg should be a chance to expand on coverage rather than strip it down and pad it out with dregs. I see it as a massive wasted opportunity - but hopefully they can improve. Hopefully North One can/will throw them a bone and help.


And as for getting a life. I can think of thirty-two and a half thousand reasons why you're in no position. I respect your opinion, so let's leave it at that.

Thank god for the MotorsTV switch, I'm already liking the new commentator and his ability to stay silent for several minutes to just enjoy the onboards. :) There were a couple nice exterior shots too, I hope there will be more exterior footage but as it is now I like it tons more than the awful, monotonous and completely boring Eurosport coverage before.

Keep it up MotorsTV, I see the WRC coverage going back to it's glory days. Sad to see this year is the last year of the big turbo cars. I thought there would be more s2000 coverage since these cars will take over in 2011 but I have seen none yet, hopefully in the future.

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Originally Posted by Simmi

So now is showing exterior action shots of cars and sponsors safe?

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That's actually something I hadn't thought of, but yes there was a lot less exterior shots including sponsors banners in the background. Could be interesting if it has an affect on sponsorship revenue in the long term.

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Originally Posted by club_soda

Thank god for the MotorsTV switch, I'm already liking the new commentator and his ability to stay silent for several minutes to just enjoy the onboards. :) There were a couple nice exterior shots too, I hope there will be more exterior footage but as it is now I like it tons more than the awful, monotonous and completely boring Eurosport coverage before.

Keep it up MotorsTV, I see the WRC coverage going back to it's glory days. Sad to see this year is the last year of the big turbo cars. I thought there would be more s2000 coverage since these cars will take over in 2011 but I have seen none yet, hopefully in the future.

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just watching RPM on UTV northern ireland, i have to say they give a broad aspect to all classes and to listen to this WRC program it makes Motors Tv look rubbish, bring back Jon Desborough and Robbie Head

They have a mammoth task ahead of them to fix the problem. Although the signs that they are wanting to listen to sort it out is promising.

Hope they do so.

Will wait until Mexico!

Just watched the motors coverage earlier this evening and sorry to say but I was bored watching it so switched off, too much incar with crap cameras that are either underexposed or Latvalas was shaking. And on day two they said "and now it will be really good cos it's getting dark... now lets look at Kimi here ...actually it's stage 10 from earlier in the day" :s

Watched Dave coverage to compare and think it's much better. However again this year I don't think I'll make a particular effort to watch any of it.

Anyone know when the sWRC programme will be on Dave or Motors?

I thought Dave would have a WRC programme 6pm every Sunday like before, but not today...

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Originally Posted by RS

Anyone know when the sWRC programme will be on Dave or Motors?

I thought Dave would have a WRC programme 6pm every Sunday like before, but not today...

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... I think there will be an hour-long Review/Preview show on Dave the Sunday before each WRC event covering the previous s/p/jWRC, which means this Sunday (28th) at 4pm...

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Originally Posted by RS

Anyone know when the sWRC programme will be on Dave or Motors?

I thought Dave would have a WRC programme 6pm every Sunday like before, but not today...

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Motors TV will broadcast a programme(Rally World) about the other categories of the WRC, this Sunday...
http://www.motorstv.com/tv-guide?d=2010-02-28&h=4

central European Time

Sunday - 28 Feb
20:30 - Rally World Pwrc & Swrc Rally Sweden

tuesday - 2 Mar
18:45 - Rally World Pwrc & Swrc Rally Sweden
23:10 - Rally World Pwrc & Swrc Rally Sweden

wednesday - 3 Mar
20:35 - Rally World Pwrc & Swrc Rally Sweden

The other classes of the WRC deserves better than to be shown on a non-freeview channel.

I watched the Rally World programme in ONE HD... The Rally World programme covered Rally Sweden WRC Review (5 min.), Rally Arctic Lapland (2 min), Qatar International Rally (2 min.), a preview of p-j-swrc (3 min.) and a 12 min coverage of the SWRC from Sweden...They said that the next episode will be after Rally Mexico...So, no PWRC coverage???

What other channel is called ONE, is it a Greek channel?

No, it's an Australian channel that shows WRC... ;)

I watched the American coverage on HDTheater and they did mention the S2000 cars but not the P-WRC.

Does anyone know when the Mexico shakedown is being shown? On the Motors TV website it says Wed 4th 22.20 but when I check the Sky planner it's not listed. The planner says British Historic rally and I seem to remember that this was the case when Sweden was about to start...

Any Ideas?

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Originally Posted by whereschris

Does anyone know when the Mexico shakedown is being shown? On the Motors TV website it says Wed 4th 22.20 but when I check the Sky planner it's not listed. The planner says British Historic rally and I seem to remember that this was the case when Sweden was about to start...

Any Ideas?

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The 4th is actually a Thursday.

Motors TV isn't allowed to show Shakedown in the UK, only in other parts of Europe - you have obviously been looking at the "TV Guide" page of their site, rather than the "TV Guide UK" page.

...and the rest of Europe will see it at 10.20pm on Thursday.