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Legard isnt the best but does make some amusing mistakes. Loved it in malaysia (race or quali cant remember) when he said:
'and here comes Jenson Button. You can tell its Jenson Button because of the yellow top of his hat'
:rotflmao: when he fluffs he isnt as funny as Murray, but I think with Murrray we laughed with him but when Legard fluffs we laugh at him. Legard is alright, but hell never be as good as Murray.
Mike Gascoyne subbing for Eddie Jordan this weekend. Good timing as well!
What's happened to Eddie? Decked by DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Dissapeared up his own back door?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
Has other commitments according to Jake Humphrey's BBC blog.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
Perhaps he's off to fetch another load of concrete blocks to deliver to Force India.
To be honest, while Murray's gaffs have gone down into legend, in reality they were actually very few and far between. I watched a re-run of the 1987 British GP recently, and Murray was on top of his game throughout, with the cameras mostly trained on the dominant Williamses he was giving accurate, frequent, run-downs of the order, interesting soundbites and background information, as well as the gap between Mansell and Piquet in the closing stages of the race (the TV timing and scoring, while better than it is today, was still not up to the standard of say the live formula1.com timing & scoring).
Murray's mistakes, when they came, were usually due to fits of excitement and passion rather than actual bumbling incompetence.
Just been listening to Eddie Jordan's musical offerings on BBC Radio 2 (thanks, Chris Evans) and can understand why he might be shying away from the public's gaze right now. I was distinctly underwhelmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
I think the whole coverage has been disappointing. Sorry, I tried, but have not come to like The Chain. Too old school sonically.
BBC's pre-race is fair (I'm not impressed with EJ so far), the race coverage is fine, but the reduced after-race is a big loss.
I don't understand why, in this digital age, that TSN can't PAUSE the BBC feed during commercials and pick it up where we left off??!!
Reduced after race? The post-race show is as long as the race now (90 minutes).
Not in the last race it wasn't, quick round up and away. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
They could. But then the race wouldn't be live, and they'd get howls of protest from people using live timing etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by grantb4
I think Gascoyne is a terrific choice. Clearly the idea was that Coulthard would give the perspective of a driver and would be quite straight and give nifty sound bites. Eddie Jordan was supposed to give the perspective of a team (but he's not exactly what you'd call a normal team boss) and probaly a technical perspective aswell, aswell as being a little bit edgey and a bit of a character.
Gascoyne though will be far more knowledgble especially on the technical side considoring he held high positions at Renault, Toyota and Force India, he only left formula 1 last year and he's still a character but he'll be a lot more reigned in that E Jordan was.
JH has explained that was partly due to most things being covered during the red-flag period, and partly due to them being forced to take shelter in Brawn's hospitality area without their usual equipment. We've been promised an hour-long post-race red button fest this week, so let's see what we get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Ah so that means I can't Sky+ the race this week either? Damn :p
Is the hour-long post-race only available to Sky digital users?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
It's on Virgin cable and probably BT Vision, but I don't think it's on Freeview. Should be on the website though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Cummins
Agreed. He did a terrific job working with ITV explaining his strategy calls mid-race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie
Sack EJ and bring back Pitbull.
:up: +1 for Gascoyne. He's far more useful and restrained in his style than EJ. The pitlane walk was very well put together, and let us hear from people we don't usually see during a GP weekend.
I think Gacoyne id a good job and im was impressed by him.
although Eddie has already won me over, i dont know what it is, his edge, humour, the banter he has with DC or whatever, I really like him and so will miss him a bit this weekend.
But Gascoyne is a brilliant temporary replacement none the less as he provided great knowledge etc.
had to laugh today when DC entioned his own pink shirt, to which Humphreys replied 'who would wear a pink shirt on the telly 'ay?'
and David tried to hide his embarrasment, but his face after that was hilarious. Thank you JH and DC, another funny moment from the Beeb-team
I do like him, admittedly he is OTT at times but he/BBC producer clearly has an agenda which is to have arguments for the sake of it just to keep things interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
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Originally Posted by wedge
If you want a character Gascoyne is a lot better becausce he's not OTT and he's a hell of alot more knowledgble than Jordan.
yeah but jordan has got an irish accent (mainly because hes irish) that makes things more interesting for some wierd reason.
Looked more like DC was going to punch him :p I was impressed with Gascoyne but the three of them (with or without EJ) haven't won me over completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
And I hope they actually present from out the back of the pits tomorrow, I couldn't hear a bloody thing over the PA! Presenting from the pit lane is a great idea but it's just too much noise with the music blaring out too.
I suspect Gazza's Pitbull moniker is evident behind closed doors working on getting the best out of the cars and regulations. Best asset is explaining the technical side without appearing to be condescending to the media and general public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie
EJ speaks his mind. Knows about running drivers and teams at a macro level and the politics that go with it.
Ok, I shall check it out tomorrow. Cheers :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I'm not being biased just because Eddie is Irish, but I like his character too. There's something that shines between the DC and EJ relationship already. Its a bit like Father Ted and Dougal Maguire or Del Boy and Rodney. Not that they carry on like those people, but that one can't do without the other (a moment of "Can't live with it, can't live without it.")Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
I haven't watched any of the coverage so far this weekend so I will be interested to see Gascoyne's approach. But I hope EJ isn't sacked from the crew.
I was impressed with Mike Gascoyne as well. A good choice.
I thought MG was kneeling down when him, Humphreys and DC first came on the tv!
As near to perfect in China as it's possible to get. Legard still sounded a little unsure of himself at times, but everything else was brilliant.
Brundle took DC with him on the pit walk which was a masterstroke, giving him somewhere to go when he couldn't find drivers and also lending a useful second line of questioning.
The red button post-race show is such a simple but effective idea. Don't care about the race? Fine, watch Andrew Marr's ears. Want to see everything? 90% of the UK has digital and can press red for an extra hour.
I don't know what Eddie Jordan's "other committments" were, but please let them continue. Mike Gascoyne was such a great addition to the team.
The weak link is definately Lee McKenzie. Where were the interviews with retirees today? What did she contribute?
9.5 out of 10 and getting better every race. :up:
I agree. Excellent coverage and I'm now watching the forum which is a great addition :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I thought it was amusing when David Coulthard got his pass out of his pocket and showed it to security as they walked out onto the track!
Was a good show today. I enjoyed Gascoyne and Lee didn't have many to interview with 18 cars running late into the race.
Absolutely. I still can't believe what a great job they're doing, a solid four hour programme all in all. And no early breaks for Coronation Street when the race overruns :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Dave, you don't know what you're missing of 5LiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
on the Kubica-Trulli clash
Croftie: Trulli's sharkfin looks like it was bitten by a killer whale.....
Ant: Looked more like they both cars attempts at mating! :D
Can you get 5-live commentary online?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
I love 5L during the practice sessions, and might seriously consider using them for the race next time. It's fantastic just to be able to have the choice!
I Love Ant and Croft for pratice as well.
But then again, I think the main team also did a superb job this race. Well done.
How awesome is it, that we now have 2 good commentary teams to choose from? Doesn't get much better than this, does it?
Good post there. I think Jonny Legard needs to slow his words down a little bit, because it sounds like his brain is ahead of his mouth at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
I didn't see quali or race build-up, but Mike Gascoyne was great. Eddie wasn't missed AT ALL for me, but if they decided to have a four-man team for the rest of the year, it would still be very good. Even with Eddie there the coverage was still good but I hope they can bring Mike in permanently.
I know he may have post-race radio commitments, but it would be good if they could bring in Anthony Davidson to the Forum, to give his insight into the race.
I didn't miss EJ, but I think he just needs a bit of training!
I value his insight, but he needs some lessons in TV presentation.