The club is not going to offer you an invitation so you can stop flattering us :)Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
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The club is not going to offer you an invitation so you can stop flattering us :)Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
You'll have to do better than that, I'm afraid. Your exact words were 'A picture is worth a thousand words. Tough to argue pictures ofhim in nazi dress.' This clearly suggests that there are photos of him dressed as a Nazi, which is quite different from participating in a Nazi-themed orgy. You should get your facts straight before suggesting that others' interpretation of something is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjanicke
You made the reference to Holocaust denial in direct relation to my questioning whether your statement about Mosley having been 'in Nazi dress' was correct. You were completely wrong about this. Therefore, it was utterly unreasonable to equate my doubts about your statement with holocaust denial. This makes it very much your issue, not mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by jjanicke
Do you mean these?????Quote:
Originally Posted by jjanicke
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7523034.stm
Read it and weep my man!
Read it and weep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :erm:
At the High Court, Mr Justice Eady said there was "no evidence that the gathering on 28 March 2008 was intended to be an enactment of Nazi behaviour or adoption of any of its attitudes. Nor was it in fact.
"I see no genuine basis at all for the suggestion that the participants mocked the victims of the Holocaust."
The "bondage, beating and domination" that did take place was "typical of S&M behaviour", he said.
"But there was no public interest or other justification for the clandestine recording, for the publication of the resulting information and still photographs, or for the placing of the video extracts on the News of the World website - all of this on a massive scale."
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Originally Posted by Tazio
Err i think he was talking about what he said, not what a fellow old fumble brain and, I suspicion, fellow attendee at certain events at a certain theater hosted by MaX, tried to excuse as just plain ole "typical S & M behavior" as u know., he likes and gets his joy inflicting pain on others, while all dressed up in play clothes........and since MaX made his little "private" activities so public as well as his excuses, so he reaps what he sowed.
And yes, not being invited to join the SS or Sensible Seven, well I guess I will just have to drink myself to sleep, :beer:
And pray-tell, what is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
The disapproval of some meaningless opinions on an F1 forum???
Or are we talkin'
Eternal Damnation by the Almighty, all the Saints, and his Son Jeezzzzuuusssss !!
Say "halleluiah" brotha'! :crazy:
BDunnell point taken on the courts finding. I'm in the wrong.
But my comparison (when I believed to be right, which i wasn't ;) ) was, at that time, relevant.
I have to do a better job at keeping up with pop culture. Apparently I was way behind the times on this drama. :)
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Originally Posted by Tazio
And to that,
I say AMEN BROTHERS AND SISTERS,
GOD LOVES YOU
AND BECAUSE HE DOES LOVE YOU, HE HAS Provided to all of you, to even MaX and the Taz, yes, even the TAZ!!!! who has finally seen the LIGHT (even though it still be red),
the true path to redemption to guide your mortal soul to glory, the mighty cup full of god's salvation is before you in all its might is right before you, :beer:
so drink up, and smile, if only for a while
Halafucalouha, and remember if tazio can be saved, so can all you sinners.
Take a sip before it is toooooolate
Amen
now excuse me while i burp
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.......NOT!Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-cBB...gma_mea_culpa/
I believe that there was circumstantial evidence to draw a conclusion this had Para German connections.
There was role play involving the "Dominators" dressed in German Prison and Military apparel. This is fact.
The Judge made an opinion that this didn't genuinly constitute mocking of Holocaust victims.
However, I suggest that part of Max's pleasure involves German role play fantasy by the costumes used.
I'm just saying it as I see it.
So , I'm going to assume that those who are aghast at Max's behavior , would be OK with this , had he been pictured in a bunny suit ?
Or , would that be a PETA issue ?
What if he was playing cowboys and Indians ?
Or , if he was dressed as a vampire ? Should either Hungarians or the blood banks get involved in this ?
Any of the above might have been his preference at other times , so I guess they would be OK then ?
Any of you who are thinking Max should go because of this should remember he took precautions to keep his private life private .
Let's remember our own personal space , and how a violation of this to this degree would affect us .
How would Markabilly feel if his bedroom was on Youtube without his consent ?
While he might not be wearing his Colonel Klink outfit , would he , or you , feel he should look into finding out who set up the camera ?
And , if he was to find out it was a local contractor , should he ask who paid for the work ?
If Markabilly was the front desk receptionist at the White House , could they legally fire him for the bunny suit ?
Round and round we go… Are we trying to decide on something that’s already been decided on? This thread seems more focused on what Max did, and not what Max might do. From what I read, Max claimed to be 98% sure who was responsible but wanted to wait till he was certain before coming forward, are the Max bashers trying to bring question to his credibility by bringing up the Nazi themed orgies again, because from my perspective your just chasing your tails, and shooting yourselves in the foot in the process…
Whoever was responsible for bringing this story to light, delivering the “tape” to NotW was surely out to embarrass Mosley, damage his reputation, and perhaps drive him out of the sport. intent follows the bullet And so while I may argue the damage to Mosley might not be as severe as some might believe, there has been damage, and not just to Max, to some extent FIA, and all the sports they govern. So to all those who asked or demanded Mosley step down from the FIA? What should happen to those who got the ball rolling?
Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???
Thank You PS. Someone is starting to connect the dots!Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
The orgy/S&M in itself is not an issue. The issue resides within the legality of his activities (i.e. was it prostitution, and if so, was said prostitution illegal). If that basic question holds true the guy needs to remove himself from office. If not, than all the fncking power to this pervert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
However I do question someones moral/ethical abilities and value when they clearly have no regard for basic civilized tennants.
PSfan all good points. However I couldn't be more at odds with your last point. Rupert Murdoch is not the head of a governing body , so the comparison is mute.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
Now if the comparison was with an Eliot Spitzer, or Larry Craig, or any other sexual deviant in a governing position I would ask for the same. "Remove yourself from that governing position to protect the interests of the greater good". There is no question that Max's indiscretions have harmed the face of the governing body of international motor sports, and perhaps F1 itself. It doesn't matter that he had no intention of the public finding out. He is solely responsible for compromising the office he holds by engaging in his past times. Just happens that some other "jerk" called him out. Max should step down, and if he doesn't it the responsibility of those involved to demand it.
j,
I appreciate that you are very passionate about this subject!
However, we beat (or whipped if you prefer :p :)
the puss out of that dead horse last summer! :dozey:
He won a vote of confidence in June last year! alot of people wern't happy. blah, blah, blah,!!!!!
Not only is he staying, he may run for another term when this one runs out!
Depends if folk wearing bunny suits had been resposible for something attrocious in the past, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
If it was made of real bunny fur, then I assume yes, it probably would....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
People who let their heads be ruled by their John Thomas and associated sexual urges tend to have a habit of making rash decisions as a result IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
I was not aware Max was taking part in S&M in his bedroom when he was caught. And for all I know, Markabilly might well be that lad with the pretend lightsabre on You Tube...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Totally agree. I wasn't trying to pontificate some moral arguement about his personal sexual preferences but just stating facts. Personally, I find his activity rather distastfull but as long as it's behind closed doors, I don't give a monkeys. I have always been against Max for his professional conduct within the FIA and not what gets his rocks off.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
A theory but no real evidence or motive. You could use arguements like this to implicate Ron, JYS and 90% of the paddock!Quote:
Oh and just something to throw out there. Tazio mentioned a connection between Peter Windsor and perhaps Speedtv backing for the new USF1 team… Well if there is any truth to that, lets continue that idea, Speedtv is owned by FOX… FOX is owned by who again???
I might agree , if the bunny-suited people had been tire slashers . Then , Max might be interpretted as saying he would join the bunny-suited corps , and cause a serious safety issue .Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I have no problems with the idea of Max being impeached for his rash decisions , but not for the reasoning that "John Thomas" makes him do it .
You glossed over my questions in the last paragraph , conveniently .
Would you care to answer them ?
I know folks who brag about going to the peeler club , and I know people who would blush at the thought , and heap disdain on those inside .
But , you see , that's why it's inside , where those with different values don't have to watch .
Personally , I think beating someone with a whip is creepy as hell , but I know Max was doing a lot to keep me from seeing this activity . He kept it from you , me , and his family for 40 years .
Someone else was responsible for showing you , not Max .
You should be angry with them .
Knowing he has these tendencies does explain one thing for me ; how he can stand the high pressure "whippings" he gets in the press after those "rash decisions" .
I used to thnk that he throws in a goofy suggestion or two , just so he can pass a reasonable one , but I now think that maybe some of the hassle he gets is requested because it's a hassle .
But , either way , it's usually the least goofy of his ideas that gets adopted .
How does absolute power corrupt ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
We only need to take a look at the NoTW website to see how this all works:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...OUR-STORY.htmlQuote:
We offer big bucks for tips, stories, pictures and videos. Buy a new kitchen, put the money towards a new car or treat your family to a holiday - your story could be worth a small fortune! Get in touch and sell us your story now.
How much is my story worth?
A major exclusive used on the front page could be worth many thousands of pounds, but a smaller item would be worth less. Essentially, the bigger the name, the bigger the story, the bigger the payment.
I don't know. I don't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Lucky us! :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Well now , isn't that the perfect cover for whomever is responsible ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I might be mistaken , but I seem to recall that she never got the fortune she was promised , and never made a fuss .
When her life was already in a mess , apparently from poor investments , you'd think she might argue that she get what was promised .
Was her name "Patsy" ?
I don't think so .
I think you'll find that she and her agent husband are quite comfortable at this point , having served well .
It will all make for a great story in the end , and perhaps you'll see those responsible for us having this in the news , in their rightful place , as a news item themselves some day .
You might not see the scenario as possible , but you can't argue that it will make a great headline if true .
Please don't remind me (that he might run for another term). I find it hard to support this guy, indiscretions aside. From my, albeit limited, POV he hasn't had any positive material impact in the last 8 years, perhaps even longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
There was no intention to compare Rupert Murdoch to Mosley or implicate him any more then he already has been. Max also claimed that he hadn't ruled out sanctions to whomever he thought was responsible, at the time, besides maybe cancelling a tow from RM car club services, or limiting access RM's press to the sports the FIA govern how could Max enforce any sanctions against RM?Quote:
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Originally Posted by PSfan
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Originally Posted by jjanicke
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Originally Posted by Knock-on
But now with the USF1 Max may have the means to do just that. And when Peter Windsor says something to the effect that they see teams do things one way, and think they can do it better another way, tells me it opens the door for the FIA to make things more difficult if they want to. Though I don’t believe in this theory because I doubt Max can count on using USF1 to get back at RM and I also think that when he made the statement of sanctions its would be because he already would be in a position to implement them, not maybe in a couple years... which suggests another party involved...
A 2nd possibility is if USF1 is indeed backed by RM, and it also serves Speedtv and Fox`s best interest if there is a successful US team that now RM and MM should learn to get along. In which case Max can scratch RM`s back be making life easier for USF1 in regards to rule clarifications and such, and RM can return the favour by maybe giving Max the little bit of evidence that would make him certain of who initiated this ugly affair.
I half hope he does start a little war with RM.
Max might think he's a big fish but he's small fry in this war. It'll be one way of getting him out of F1 :D
Dream on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Max can have one over RM as long as he has a good legal reason, is the president of the FIA and the FIA is based in Paris, France, where judges aren't impressed by RM in any way.
Max is intelligent enough to only start wars that he can win, as he has proved until now.
If that scenario played out then Max would be bringing the sport into further disrepute IMHO. Not because of his private life, but because the FIA Presidency seems to be being used by Max for Max.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
Now that Max's private life is public it seems to be in his interest to keep that story linked to his public role as FIA President. It's certainly not in the FIA's interest, or motorsport's interest. So we get the "I know but can't tell" story, and on and on it goes.
So , if a senior official in the governing body of motorsport has people following him around trying to invade his privacy constantly , so as to find something that disturbs the public enough to have him ousted on public opinion , that's ok with you , then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Even if it was only about the money , Arrows , it still wouldn't be right .
He'll use every option to ensure this doesn't happen again .
And the next president should appreciate it .
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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Been reading my stuff again????Did you pay for that kool aid ????
Copyright infringement I say!!
I could say BINGO, but you are only saying the obvious, atleast the obvious to those with a bit of common sense...as to the rest, there are none so blind, as those who will not see, or have not been drinking their kool aide
As I was saying........get off those drugs and drink your kool aid or you can not have your desert with cool whipping.....NO NOT that cool whipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Geeasshes, Halfacaluha
What have you done to these peole tazio???
what THE %^&(*&(&^^((%)^e!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Okay baggie, you have done it now
I though we could play in private, me in my Col. kinky KLink outfit, complete with monocle, acting as the preacher who is performing the marriage ceremony for you and sweet pie, while you are all dressed up in your pee wee herman outfit with your favorite sheep, sweetie pie, in your arms
Can you not keep your mouth shut!!!!!
If you do not, I will be putting on the internet for everyone to see, all those intimate videos of your honey moon with sweetie pie....
Another big blabber mouth, and as you well know, the light saber is not what it appears......and if you do not hush it up, I will tell everyone what we were really doing with that light saber......and remember i got the videos :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
[quote="markabilly"]what THE %^&(*&(&^^((%)^e!!!!!!!
Okay baggie, you have done it now
I though we could play in private, me in my Col. kinky KLink outfit, complete with monocle, acting as the preacher who is performing the marriage ceremony for you and sweet pie, while you are all dressed up in your pee wee herman outfit with your favorite sheep, sweetie pie, in your arms
Can you not keep your mouth shut!!!!!
If you do not, I will be putting on the internet for everyone to see, all those intimate videos of your honey moon with sweetie pie....
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Gosh Marky Mark , you sound upset .
So , I guess I know how you'd feel if your Klink moments were public .
It sounds like Sweetie and I had better take care to keep Herman out of the news .
Are you sure that Koolaid isn't just Freshie ?
I'd reread that label .
You sound like you understand that Max tracking the culprits has some merit .
That just can't be right . Have another swig .
What is wrong with you?? All those sweet little things you whispered in our ears, just don't mean nothing? You have no honor, kissing and telling!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
Oh yeah, I think me and sweetie pie will have to sue you for wearing that camera in your bra---
So then we can get up there and sprew forth all the really kinky stuff and prove it all true right out in the open court.
And then keep reminding everyone over and over about that video..... and then politically screw around so I keep my lifetime job as FIA prez....after several years, no one will get tired of it that is for sure, plus since I took that which was private and made it public for everyone, including having all my hookers testify in court as to their kinkiness, oh yeah, life is tough
How come maX never whines (except for that ten seconds in court) about his family or how by bringing it up over and over again, must publicly remind everyone including wifey as to what a kink....
And the poor hookers, why don't they have the same right to privacy? MaX had no problem dragging them right into it, subpena and all....poor hookers, I guess they thought they would end up on that reality show, http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelor/index?pn=index where they could put their talents to good use for the world to see.....
But you still do not get it, it is one thing to have one's privacy violated, another to be caught committing something which is a crime in many countries, nevertheless, I said it was wrong, and still do, except for MaX, it has changed, when maxine made it all public hisself and demonstrated what an arrogant prick he really is, all under oath, right from his own mouth.
And continues to do so, over and over again
Well now , Billy , my friend , doncha know what Max did ?
If you haven't heard , you can google it .
The little nasties got into his bedroom , and he is now a leper . I'm pretty sure they've bleached down the walls and made it safe again , but they haven't tracked down the carrier .
People are ok with his being a leper now , as they realize he was one for many years without them knowing .
It's old news , Billy .
No surprise , nothing to see here , move along now .
All , except ........... the grand finale ...........and the winner is .......
Ah , geez , Max !
I hate it when he ends an episode of "As the F1 turns" , with a "cliff-hanger" .
He knows , but we have to wait for it until next week , and right now it's time to run and get your secret decoder rings , kids !
Jot down this phrase , and scratch it into the screen of your blackberry with the ring : "Max is kinky , Max is kinky , Max is kinky ."
(For those without decoder rings , the phrase translates as :"Drink Ovaltine , not Koolaid .")
(the author accepts no responsibility for those with blackberries)
Max will continue to look for those involved , and do so over and over again , until he has the proof needed to flail those stingers , and make people quake at the very idea of showing your bedroom on youtube .
Don't worry .
Max will make things safe for you once again .
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
Well now, thank you geeazzass, AMEN bro, for giving us MaX!!!!
thanks to MaXine, we can all feel safe in our beds, safe and secure from cheap hookers with video cameras stuck in their bras...... :)
Foolish me, I thought it all started with Maxine needing to "set himself up" with some sleasey hookers...............and "up" pops a two bit hooker looking for a four bit john, who found out that maX was not merely a scuzzy, old shriveled bag of stuff, and thought they could make some bread, by hooking up a camera in the bra, stolen from the spouse's secret service/intelligence place of employment with the british government, filming MaX doing his best to get off, then sell it to that rag, who in turn was owned by Murdoch who owns Fox, speed tv and NY times and your momma, which was what his silly ass lawsuit was all about, you remember----- the one where he ran his mouth off so proud of his hobby--- :rolleyes: ---
and if he could not get "who set him up" that way with his trial with subpenas and all, well now the truth might be that the old fool has gotten so old and his memory so bad, he done forgot all about his trial.... :confused:
But back to the important stuff, Bagwan, you better not be slandering the Kool aid anymore, or I may be posting those videos of you and "sweetie pie" having "fun" :love: and sipping the koolest of aid :beer:
I agree with Bagwan's assessmant of it, that it is also in the best interest of the FIA and anyone they elect as President to ensure this bs never happens again, so no, I don't see that scenario as Max using his position at the FIA solely for personal gains.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Funny how often a driver says something stupid to the press and we have a couple people claiming "well maybe it he was just answering a journo's question" but when it happens to Max... well it must be him trying to keep the spotlight on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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Originally Posted by markabilly
Please please please open up a google window and do a search on Dominatrix or at least get a clue... every time you post something regarding hookers or max doing something illegal makes you look as ignorant as the crappy journolists that claim prostitutes and nazi themes...
If being a professional Dom is illegal, then how come I can click a link on the wikipedia page about dominatrix and can find literally hundreds of them in the USA and Canada? They certainly aren't hiding from the police.
So getting back to your "Max is being a hypocrit" (I think thats the point you where trying to make, I'm not sure because most of your posts don't make alot of sense... to much sugar maybe? ) But No, I'm sure most of the girls weren't to ashamed to be pulled infront of the Judge and tell what really happened (free advertising) except the one that betrayed Max's trust might be looking for a new profession, but she brought that upon herself...
What are you referring to when you say "this bs"?Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
The main reason I ask is that the NoTW has been in existence as a "scandal sheet" since 1843. This kind of "bs" is what they deal in. Is it the role of an FIA President to shut down the NoTW?
Fair point, and I'd agree if Max had stopped at "I am not going to do anything or say anything until I am absolutely certain"? But he didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by PSfan
Ladies and Gentleman..... Mister--Conway--Twitty!
"There's no use going over, all the things that took me under"
Tazio makes an obscure referance to "The Family Guy" :eek: :laugh:
What Max did with the hookers and such is his own business - he has nothing to answer for and this on its own has no bearing on his ability to lead the FIA.
His constant big rubbery one over standardised parts in F1, and the desecration of the historic Formula 2 name on the other hand....