We were dumb enough to allow JFK, Carter and Obama. Palin would be a significant step up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
BTW I like it when the rest of the world is scared of us.
We were dumb enough to allow JFK, Carter and Obama. Palin would be a significant step up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
BTW I like it when the rest of the world is scared of us.
It says Not authorized by any candidate or candidate committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Sarah is not a candidate for anything at this time. Nor is she on any other candidates election committee. There is no contradiction.
We know you're a madman. Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein also probably liked it when people were scared of them. Or Caligula, who said ''let them hate as long as they fear.''Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/07/op...they-fear.html
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Let Them Hate as Long as They Fear
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: Friday, March 7, 2003
''Why does our president condone the swaggering and contemptuous approach to our friends and allies this administration is fostering, including among its most senior officials? Has 'oderint dum metuant' really become our motto?'' So reads the resignation letter of John Brady Kiesling, a career diplomat who recently left the Foreign Service in protest against Bush administration policy.
''Oderint dum metuant'' translates, roughly, as ''let them hate as long as they fear.'' It was a favorite saying of the emperor Caligula, and may seem over the top as a description of current U.S. policy. But this week's crisis in U.S.-Mexican relations -- a crisis that has been almost ignored north of the border -- suggests that it is a perfect description of George Bush's attitude toward the world.
so why would you contribute to the only palin authorized pac if it ain't for palin but............. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
Eki,
A piece of advice.
If you want to be taken seriously by anyone outside of the upper-east-side do not ever quote Paul Krugman.
it don't matter if he quotes him or notQuote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
http://img.printfection.com/9/2519169/GIOPY.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
I am a little lost.
Why is Eki blathering on about Bush in a thread about Sarah Palin in the Obama era?
Remember she will be the next President---- of the FIA.
It's pretty obvious that she wants to cash in on her "celebrity" once out of office.
(not that it will necessarily ruin her future political career) She will take some exorbitant fees for interviews, and public appearances.
Who knows she could get syndicated, and become the next Ann Coulter, only in Limbaughnian proportions :p :
My main point was Caligula and his quote. Bush just happened to feature in that article. Besides, the fact that the Americans were stupid enough to vote GW Bush for their President, not only once but twice (smart people learn from their mistakes), makes the possibility of electing Palin more potential threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
well, given that drug bust of the momma of the husband of daughter, she will not even need to develope those connections, but she needs to starting porking out now, if she truly wishes to reach his proportionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
I simply don't believe this to be true, unless you mean that she worries people who genuinely don't believe that anybody as moronic as her should be allowed near public office. (By the way, it is the case that someone like Joe Biden wouldn't have been allowed anywhere near public office in the UK after the Kinnock-plagiarising incident, but then it is often said that Jeffrey Archer would have gone a long way in American politics, which tells you all you need to know.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
Furthermore, it amazes me that conservatives, who generally believe people should be responsible for their own actions, should seek to blame others for the ridicule that Palin faces. I've said it many times before and I'll say it again. She brings it all on herself. She is pure comic gold. This is the reason for the jokes, not some left-liberal conspiracy.
Ah, some of that liberal intellectual elitist attitude coming through. Anyone who would vote for Palin or the BNP are too stupid to be allowed to vote. Someone give me a list of Obama's experience prior to election. Give me a list of his denials of fact before the election. Give me a list of the promises he has failed to keep since being elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I understand your point of view because I, quite frankly, after looking at all the facts about Obama before the election, couldn't believe how many people were dumb enough to vote for him.
There is one important difference, not that I had a vote — Obama is not a gun-toting moron with a lack of basic general knowledge. And are you seriously suggesting that those of us who found Palin to be comedy gold during the campaign only held this view because of our own political bias? If so, you have a lot to learn about humour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
I'm confident that she has a fat, blowhard, demigogue screaming to be released from within! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Give him time. He has over 3 years left to keep his promises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
Well so far, transparency isn't doing too well, his press conferences are all staged with pre-submitted questions and the reporters are informed in advance if their question will be used, no earmarks on bills, all bills to be available for public inspection for 48 hours before passage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
All of the above could have been kept. They haven't. Like all liberal socialists, the preferred form of government is totalitarian, as long as they run it.
Great leaders of the past have gone so far as to risk and accept prison terms in defense of their beliefs. Palin couldn't even accept the heat from some lame jokes from a talk show host. Weak.
As much as some wanted to believe that Palin was the next great thing for the neocon and/or Evangelical movement, she proved to be nothing more than a paper tiger with a wink, some "this one time at band camp" stories and a nice set of legs. Instead of putting forward any substantive ideas, she's allowed herself to become embroiled in tabloid fodder since the election. She's skipped functions, where she could have put forth ideas (if she actually had any). Now she's ducked out on the people of Alaska... because she couldn't take the heat. Imagine this half-wit as the governor of California, or even worse, (be still my heart!) the President of the United States. She'd fold up like a tent in a wind storm.
Like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian, Sarah's going to cash in on her popularity, I'd say. Good for her. Might as well cash in on her 15 minutes and try to extend it as much as she can. My original contention that Palin is the Danica Patrick of politics seems all the more accurate now. What's even more interesting is that in the same week that Tony George went down the tubes, so did Sarah Palin. Kind of ironic, I'd say... :s mokin:
No, but he wants 30,000 gun-toting morons with a lack of basic knowledge to act as his private civilian defense force to ride herd over the rest of the morons with a lack of basic knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Someone needs to tell him we are already got a bunch of county sheriffs to doing that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
I dunno know about that.....but I will let you know about the camel toes after our date next weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
And where were your complaints about the totalitarian excesses of whatever the side you are from during the last 8 years? And from 1980-1992?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
You do know don't you when you refer to the right of center policies of modern US Democrats as "socialism" that you appear to the whole rest of the world as foolish and unbelievable in the extreme?
And all credibility evaporates.
Only to you and a few more of the timid. Maybe I ought to put out a list if me and see what group you'd like to throw me in with.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
I agree. Anyone who thinks that there is a hint of socialism in anything along the lines of the modern Democratic Party or the UK's Labour Party clearly has as limited an understanding of politics as does anyone who would lump Republicans or British Conservatives in with the far right.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Spoken like a true left wing voter. Ben...Obama has nationalized GM for all intensive purposes. THAT is socialism. He wants to take over healthcare. That, whether you think this is good or bad is a socialist tenet. The Democratic party or the UK Labour party are socialist to an extent. I don't think for a second they are the second coming of Stalin or even Karl Marx, but government control of sectors of the economy is a socialist tenet. That said, many Republican or Tory politicians have taken socialist ideas at one point or another on as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Palin? A punching bag? Ya...she is, but I can remember the efforts that were given to digging up every speck of dirt about her the second McCain put her in the VP spot. I don't remember that much diligent journalism when the press was ignoring the rumours going about John Edwards and the illicit affair resulting in a love child. The mainstream media ignored those rumours until AFTER Edwards had dropped out of the race for President. Palin? They went after her daughter like a pack of wolves.
Sarah Palin is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and I don't think she is ready to be anything more than the Governor of Alaska, but she still had more experience in actually governing something than Obama has. That fact was conveninently ignore constantly during the election but I know if the Dem's put a VP in with no experience and the Republicans had a candidate for VEEP with lots, any attacks on the Dem VP with little experience would have been muted.
I have said it a 1000 times, in the US media, there is a Democratic friendly bias and it has been documented by more than a few authors, some of them from the media and not political hacks too...
Sarah is gone, and god love her I hope she stays gone. She just hasn't done much but walk into one media S#$tstorm after another. Anyone with that lighting rod instinct for media attention in the wrong way shouldn't be running for President...
I think that's much fairer than my original post, to be honest. What I was really trying to get across my objection to was the portrayal of anything remotely left-wing as coming from the far left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
I wont say Obama is a far left guy Ben. I am glad I kind of stated what you thought because I didn't think you were as naive to think there was no socialist goals in the Democrats or UK Labour party. There always has been and many in the Labour party have come out proudly on that score.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
We can argue about right vs left all day long, but at the end of the day, most politicians elected in the democratic western nations are not extermists either way, although the coarseness of political debate sometimes would have you believe others. I cant count the number of times Tory politicians in Canada are called Nazi's or thugs any time they bring up something the leftwing NDP disagree with.
Sarah Palin has been called every rotten name in the book short of Nazi by the far left of the Democratic party. Go to a forum like the Huffington Post and they are probably coming up with some of the most vile crap imaginable....
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Oh yeah, choosing between the Sara and bama was like choosing to be hit on the left side or the right side of the head with a baseball bat.....
wonder what bama will do when this year' "stimulus" runs out for next year?
I see where that dummy Palin went and referred to Prime Minister Putin as President Putin. WHOOPS! Oh wait, that was that well-spoken, glib, intelligent Obama guy, again. Well, I guess we'll give Obama a free pass on this one too.
Good for Sarah - screw Putin anyway - She is coming and coming to a location near you. She will be the demise of many in politics. And see you T.I.R.Es and too quick to raise the white flag - you thought she was giving up.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-announcement/
^Interesting article.
Yeah, media, leave them kids alone.Quote:
Palin also decried the state of the American media and said news coverage of her children was unfair.
"Most candidates, most public officials get to look into a camera and say, 'you better leave your hands off my kids,'" she said. "Well I haven't been able to say that. And that double standard that's been applied, that's been a little bit frustrating."
Oh wait... there's more:
So when she complains about "double standards" I can only assume she's being ironic. Silly woman.Quote:
As Palin spoke, she and her husband Todd Palin loaded four news crews into two small fishing boats and headed into Bristol Bay from Dillingham.
The Palin family -- Todd's sister, mother and father, as well as nieces and at least two children, had picked the journalists up at the airport in Dillingham and shuttled them to Bristol Bay in old pickup trucks and SUVs.
It is the rest of the socialist world who appears foolish and unbelievable in the extreme. That is why we laugh at the rest of the world while the rest of the world runs to our borders to enjoy our real freedoms....The freedoms we have left under President Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Socialism in its most miniscule form is leftist. Capitalism is Central.
I noticed that she was going on about how different she is to other people in politics — more straightforward and so on (I forget the majesty of her exact words). With this in mind, ought she not to have said straight off why she was quitting, rather than using various mealy-mouthed phrases about how she has a 'higher calling' or whatever it was? Truth is that she offers nothing new in this respect, and anybody who thinks she does is gullible in the extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
That comment makes me more convinced than ever that you are the creation of an immensely talented (and probably left-wing) parodist. Great work, whoever you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
The truth hurts, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Like she would even know the difference between a Prime Minister and a President. :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7
As far as Putin, she'd probably say that's something she did in the outhouse when she was at summer camp.
Another Silly Sarah Shaggy Dog Story:
"It's like, ya know, like when the point guard is dribbling up the court, and she realizes that she ate too much cotton candy before the game... she better pass the ball and run to the locker room, or she'll be Putin on the court."
She's so precious. :rolleyes:
It was Obama that made the screw up, not Palin. Palin wasn't there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I wonder if she can read a paragraph? Did you read past the first line or did you just get that Sarah bone in your mouth and take off barking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I read it. And what I meant was, whether one agrees with his politics or not, it's quite safe to assume that Obama (Newt Gingrich, Pat Buchanan or any number of other politicians who aren't just window dressing) knows the difference, slip of the tongue not withstanding. My guess is that a person who taught constitutional law probably knows the difference between a Prime Minister and a President. But a person who took six years or so to get some sort of make believe degree, while jumping from make believe diploma mill to make believe diploma mill, and didn't even know the duties of the Vice President in her own country, probably wouldn't know a Prime Minister from a prime rib.
So, if Obama does it, or anyone with a Jag accreditable degree, it's a mere "slip of the tongue", just one of many for Obama but if Palin does it, she's a dumba$$?
I knew that was coming. Laugh and giggle all you must but this woman scares the crap out of the Democrats. Much like the Republican party holding Bobby Jindal out on high for awhile. While the country was acting like he was the next Republican hope, the folks in Louisiana were wondering when he was going to come back home and start doing his job.