No wonder Bernie hates the British GP so much :(
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No wonder Bernie hates the British GP so much :(
Jesus....goes from bad to worse.
Winner of the 2009 "understatement of the year award!" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
It's no wonder Bernie has tried to abandon the British GP for so long. Maybe they should hold it in Lesotho or some other remote third world country and just call it the "BRITISH" GP? ;)
the worst part is this...
"Bernie Ecclestone has previously insisted that if Donington is not ready to hold the British round of the world championship, the race will be removed from the calendar rather than returning to current venue Silverstone."
so much for the back-up plan. :s
you know for a brit bernie really doesnt show it does he?
If he dont get his money and his way, and donnington isnt ready, he just wilfully abandons all of the history and importance of the british gp without second thought.
Indeed.
Well that's a surprise. Not. Goodbye british gp.
Mark my words. SIlverstone 2009 will be the last British GP for a while.
I hate to say "I told you so" :s
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74731
Why the hell should the Government use 'our' money to provide a British GP? We're in a 'credit-crunch' - the money is needed for more worthy things. What planet is he on?
Everybody sees the billions spent bailing out the banks, the billions on offer to prop up the car industry, the billions being spent on the 2010 Olympics; and then feels aggrieved when they can't get a comparitively small piece of the pie.
The trouble is that with so many people wanting a small piece of pie, there's just not enough pie to go round. Bernie's correct in a way that the amount of money required to save the BGP is a tiny fraction of the Olympic budget, but the perception of F1 (rightly or wrongly) is that it's a cash-rich sport which is totally undeserving of government support.
We'll have an election in the next year or so and with Labour already less popular than haemorrhoids I can't see them risking the wrath of the public by bailing out Formula One.
So bye bye, British Grand Prix :(
We're fooked :(
You are quite right (except the Olympics are over here in '12 not '10!) The potential gains from the Olympic legacy go far higher in justifying the support, than would better pits etc at Silverstone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Brockman
Can't believe I wrote 2010 :s At least if it was two years earlier we might not have a logo resembling Lisa Simpson playing the skinflute.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Funny with the possible new rules, you really do not need pits, just a long, winding strip of asphalt...... and a few grandstand seats
Santa Pod...!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
I totally disagree. "Heritage" doesn't pay the bills. "Importance" evidently doesn't equate to good solid cash either so the Grand Prix can't be that important.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
If the British GP really was a mega-prize asset then Silverstone wouldn't have lost it as it would have been a huge cash cow. Evidently it isn't...as neither is the French GP and, with due respect, the French GP has a darn sight more 'heritage' than the British GP....or any other GP I could care to mention.
Why should being British mean that Bernie has to make awful economic decisions? Why should a sense of patriotism be a reason to lose money?
So now referring to somebody in that way is not only ok but approved of by the owner of this site? Cool....can you have a word with the moderator who gave me a month long infraction for doing just that? I believe I'm due an apology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I see what you are saying, but I don't share your view. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
All the new tracks, are they really cash cows? Or can they simply outbid and outbuild the others due to oodles of state/government backed money?
Tamburello - That's ok Wilko....I'm in a good mood!Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
(Aside to a henchman) - Release the hounds.
That's pretty much the same thing if the money turns up in your account, I would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
The British people and, by reflection of that, the British Government, evidently don't think that the Grand Prix should be state-funded.
That sums up its importance....neither are the people are demanding its funding nor do the government (or any other political party for that matter) see it as a worthwhile thing to plough public money into.
Personally, I'd rather have a state-of-the-art hospital wing built than have the British government pump money into the play-thing of a few fortunate ex-racing drivers.
you know guys, I think its time we and the teams and drivers all abandon F1, Bernie and the FIA, and create our/their own world championship called: Formula X Grand Prix World Championship. where there is a race on every continent, an actual british gp, the sport is well run and unbiased, no money grabbing tosser as the guy in charge, overtakings galor due to rules, cheap for teams to run etc etc.
I bagsy postion of FXGP-Managment President.
what about you?
But dan you said no money grabin tossers in charge :p
Sorry mate, u left yourself wide open to that one:
ha ha lol. yes I spose I did lead myself into that one......... :D
but I think its a good idea none the less!
Seriously tho you are right on. If the british gp is dropped, we the fans should boycot any future f1 races on tv - hit bernie where it hurts.
yes-FXGP forever!! plus, by taking all his teams away, bernie and the FIA would be left with nothing except some useless race contracts but no cars and drivers to race with! Oh how funny that would be.
Meanwhile the new age of international open wheel raing would be taking shape with a proper organisation, and the fans would be happy to see the perfect formula, as would the teams, as the rules would be a combination of what the teams and fans wanted..........
And then we both woke up and realised it was all a beautifil dream
indeed.........
Donington's deal has been extended to 2026
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/2...ms-government/
Right, I have no idea what's going on now :s Do they have the money or not?
Today's world really does move so quickly. One minute, it seems there will be no British GP and Donington are in financial trouble. The next minute, Donington have a deal to hold the race for the next 17 years! :s
The latter sounds like good news. But I'm not going to jump to conclusions just yet.
I don't know if I'm really bothered by losing the British GP. Ordinarily I would be disappointed by this, shocked even. But because the sport has morphed dramatically over the past few years, I'm just not all that surprised any more. I'm just living with it, pressing on in faith...
And that is the problem, isn't it. The esteemed (ha, that was good, even for me...) British collection of corrupt individuals - AKA the Government, is still licking its wounds from returning Bernies £1m donation.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Plus, the money being poured into the empty pit that is 2012 Olympics, at least serves to regenerate what is generally known as the 5h!tt!35t part of London.
And yes, there is not enough funding for the rozzers - who are a useless bunch of thugs anyway - and the NHS is haemorraging money to pay for every other feckers treatment from just about anywhere else in the world who choses to enter our Island. Plus, the NHS has become something it was never meant to be.......
So, long story short, what benefit does Joe Public get when his already disproportionately high tax burden is channeled towards a racing circuits facilities.....?
But this years British MotoGP is meant to be under threat. Not good.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Cummins
Well, bernie did say on the BBC in the F1 forum on Sunday that if Donington was not ready, there would be no british Grand prix, which is an absolute outrage considering Silverstone is perfectly acceptable a grand prix, and to be honest, produces some classics. What is Bernie's problem with it? apart from the obvious that Silverstone aren't putting in the money to change it. Then again, i don't see what needs changing about Silverstone, it's such an iconic track, no need to fix something that isn't broken. There is no doubt in my mind the government won't step in to help the grand prix out (they are lending all their money to banks at the moment). I really hope Donington is sorted come next year, cause the F1 season just isn't the same without a british grand prix, which has been there since the start of F1.
Bernie compares Silverstone with the new tracks that emerged in recent years, or more to the point the "facilities" they provide.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevie_gerrard
Having been in the pits & paddock at Silverstone a couple of years ago, then compared that with what we see on tv in the likes of Bahrain then he does have a point.
Then again Interlagos stays on the calendar year in year out with no word of complaint from Bernie :crazy: :dozey:
I'm a bit worried now to be honest. I see rumours around that Bernie's going to buy the circuit or sponsor it or something and I think people are getting a bit complacent.
We all know he's said time and time again that they wouldn't go to Silverstone and yet every year it goes ahead as usual. Is he being serious this time? Are we really going to lose the GP?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6175840.eceQuote:
Until now, Ecclestone has been adamant that he will never return to Silverstone, which stages this year's race, if Donington is not ready.
However, the billionaire told The Times that he will talk to Silverstone again if the circuit can show that it can upgrade its facilities. “If they were to do what they should have done, and what we've been asking them to do for five years, we'd have to have a look at it,” he said. “We've got nothing against Silverstone.”
Oh that's a bit of a change of tune. I'd hate to see Donington pour millions into upgrades and then not even get the Grand Prix!
Money money money.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
.....in a rich man's world!
Does anyone really think Bernie gives a monkey's chuff?
Yes, but its Interlagos man, Interlagos!!! The fanatical Brazilian fans in the grandstands are worth 2009 spec pit facilities all by themselves ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
LinkQuote:
On the 5 May, district councillors may deal a fatal blow to Donington Park chief executive Simon Gillett's hopes of delivering the British Formula 1 Grand Prix to his circuit.
Unless there's a dramatic intervention, planning committee will be asked to vote on a recommendation from officers to rescind the planning permission granted to Donington Ventures Leisure Ltd to re-develop the circuit in time for next season's race.
There are two outstanding issues, both were conditions of the original planning consent and have to be met: Gillett's team, which operates the circuit, has missed a deadline to provide a detailed transportation plan for race days, and it hasn't got the signature of the circuit's owner, Tom Wheatcroft, on the application.