The older group B cars were just less advanced with technology than the WRC cars, they were harder to drive as a result of this of course.
It was like any motorsport, compare now to 20 years ago and I would be pretty much the same....
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The older group B cars were just less advanced with technology than the WRC cars, they were harder to drive as a result of this of course.
It was like any motorsport, compare now to 20 years ago and I would be pretty much the same....
It might be so that the WRC cars do faster stage times than the group B's did, but it will never have the same character as any Group b.Although the technology in the wrc cars are incredible the spectacle has gone.
The FIA stands before another test again with Super 2000 and what will happen in 2010 we will have to see.Would S2000 live up to expectations.We dont know....
By the way, I'm new from sunny RSA. :)
Modern rally cars are far faster than group B. After a few years of Group A the cars were already setting faster stage times than the Group B cars did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeve
So, if you want a modern rally car that moves like the Group B cars did, you'd have to increase the power to grip ratio by cutting the grip. A lot. Otherwise the cornering (read impact) speeds would be ten times more likely to kill the drivers.
But no rally car since Group B sounds as beastly as the Audi S1 Quattro.
Nice first post :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiggeriffic
I guess most people in this forum (age 35 and up) know exactly what you mean. The roar, the burst of power, the wide slick tires, and fierce fights ......... all memories now. I bet that if somebody puts today's top WRC drivers in Group B cars, they all going to be "RautenbachedİA.F.F".
Meeve, you're new to the forum and that's great. We need more people with fresh ideas and comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeve
But a word of advice. Don't believe everything you read here.
There are people on this forum who would blame the FIA for their dinner being cold.
There are conspiracy theories trotted out here that the CIA would be proud of, let alone the FIA.
They seem to have overlooked the meetings that the drivers themselves called to discuss their concerns. The fact that Audi, and maybe one or two others, had withdrawn before the sport's announcement.
Safety was the catalyst for change and no, you will not see anything like Group B again - sadly.
Or maybe we will.Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...=2353&Itemid=2
Where does Andrew get all his money from?!!!
^ well actaully in some wrc rally some privateer owners bring out the group b car to compete, such as germany, but not often.
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Originally Posted by jparker
There's a thing Daniel could learn from you jparker ;) :p :
We have discussed this myth many times, and it is of course just a myth!Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCfan
Pole position for the 1986 Portugal GP was set by Ayrton Senna at 1.16.67 with an average speed of 204.24 km/h. The Estoril track has three straights were the F1 cars (also in 1986) reached speed up to and above 300 km/h. Henri Toivonens Lancia Delta S4 possibly had a top speed of 220 km/h. It was of course impossible for the rally car to do average speeds araound that track in the region of 200 km/h.
The rally car weighed in at appr. 1100 kgs with an engine delivering somwhere around 400 hp. Sennas Lotus weighed appr. 600 kgs. with a turbo engine (in qualifying trim) delivering more than 1000 hp. Still you are stating that this old story is true...? Sorry for saying so, but you are of course totally wrong.
Well, to my knowledge, the S4 weighed under a 1000 kg's and had around 500 bhp. Hannu Mikkola himself states that the S1 was only around 4 seconds slower than a F1 car, but on a gravel track with the same lenght as where F1's where driving. In this case, I wouldn't say it's totally bogus...Quote:
Originally Posted by Iskald