Dennis reveals rift with Alonso..

"Alonso played political games in Hungary??? When he came to the pits for the second attempt, the mecanics put on his car old tyres because Ron wanted Lewis to take the pole and he couldn't punish him for disoveying team orders.
I think was LH who talked to the stewards and then came the sanction to McLaren.So I guess the only political one was Lewis."

I was actually referring to him trying to blackmail Ron Dennis, but you reminded me about the whole quali pitlane thing.

Alonso is supposed to be the cool experienced 2xWDC, not the type to get upset by a rookie teammate. So when Lewis refused to pass him by in quali I expect a much more mature and private response than very publicly sitting in the pits 10 seconds too long to ensure your teammate doesn't get his last lap in. You're right of course, Lewis played a political game in Hungary. Alonso reacted publicly and lost 5 places as a result. Who outwitted who?

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[font=verdana][size=75][color=#000000] Somewhere and at sometime, I remeber MS saying he considered mc Laren and then later again when Mecredes added their name to the mix, but there was something about RD that convinced him not to do it or it would not be a good amtch or something to that effect...perhaps others remeber????...

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Mac was too honest a team so perhaps it was too Machiavellian for him. :D

Have to love good ol JPM:

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"Then he went to McLaren, and when (wife) Connie and I heard that Lewis was going to be his teammate, we said 'Oh my God.'

"We immediately felt sorry for Fernando because Lewis is Ron's baby. Ron paid his whole career, so Ron wants him to win and not Fernando. He would rather see Lewis win, who is like his own child to Ron. Fernando is nothing to him."

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/62583

this thing is broken or what???

Another double post :rolleyes:

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Does anybody doubt that if it comes down to the last race of the season and FA is a couple of points ahead of LH, that he will do a "Senna" to LH's "Prost"????

[Quote] The problem won't be fixed until Monday...sorry [Quote]

Poor management !!! :p :

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I think there's an interesting cultural rift in the differences between Alonso and McLaren. In Latin cultures people like to have a good oul' moan and complain when they're not happy, but others don't pay much attention to the details, rather they just see that the person is pissed of and then move on. In Anglo-Saxon people are often a lot more specific about what bothers them, and expect others to take note.

For example, look at Alonso and Massa. No-one would say there's a rift between them, even though we saw them arguing in public, and their cars have clashed on different occasions. It blows up into a big row and then it's over. That is the Latin way. My feeling is that Alonso is the kind of person who prefers to be told to his face to shut up, rather than Gentleman Ron's more measured approach. Probably a bit late now, though...