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right, although those harshly made and those may seem rude for vocabulary problem are still distinguishable. I can but suggest myself not to be over sensitive nor over aggressive, and the freedom of speech may also be a point we have to respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveA
and yet, you tend behave like a spoilt little girl when you get a fine for stepping out of line, if you're blunt, you can expect a blunt response from others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
I wouldn't say that I am a spoilt girl but thats your perogitive I suppose :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
Is questioning something not allowed here in the Forum Feedback section? Do Mods not appreciate objective and reasoned feedback?
Rather than me acting like a spoilt girl, I suggest you reply in a more reasoned manner. If I have been disrespectful to you in a way that warrents a personal attack, please let me know and I will retract it, otherwise kindly respond to me in a civil way. Comments like yours just reinforce my opinion of double standards on here. I am happy being blunt and welcome a blunt but polite response; not an insult.
You've made yourself a target so now any time you step out of line you get pulled up. Is it that hard to understand? Behave yourself and it will go back to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
spoiled girl? Let me take care of her :laugh:
Enjoy the forum flat.tyres, do you watch motogp also? this needn't have complained like Rossi has complained hardly on the tyres :laugh: ;)
I have every intention of acting in a forthright and blunt manner as I always have done. I have no intention of sucking up to anyone that has the ability to give me infractions and will question them when I feel they are being uneven and slanted in their actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
If that results in me getting banned then that will happen but I will not relinquish my principles for anything, let alone something as meaningless in the great scheme of things as an internet forum.
However, I do take on board that swearing or trying to fudge the swearing filter is not acceptable and as I have set myself up as you rightly say, fully expect to get banned if I should ever transgress in the future even though others receive no sanction. That has been confirmed and I expect it as the Mods have pointed out. I also accept that Mods and some members have the right to use insulting, provoking or "trolling" language with impunity.
As for "normal", well, I'm quite happy the way I am. :)
I wasn't saying that you were normal or abnormal. I simply said you could be nicer to people and still get your point across. I once refused to do work in class in high school because I believed that the text I was given to talk about was inaccurate and it was improper for me to stand in front of class and lie and my teacher allowed me to sit out because I explained it calmly and didn't make a big deal of it.
I was saying that your treatment by the mods and others may be a bit more "normal" if you aren't so abrasive and didn't use improper language. Just give it a go fo a week or two and you'll see it's a lot better to be that way.
Well well. Some points.
1) Lately I was given an infraction by Pino, when I asked for an explanation and for him to show me the quote where I insulted the person I had supposedly insulted (it was good old flat.tyres :D ), he did not respond to my PM.
2) With Arrows leaving the moderation team, I quite frankly have to say I think the moderation will improve greatly and personal bias will come into play less than it did before. So that is positive.
3) Much like flat.tyres, I also am a direct person and say what I think, without holding back or trying to be "nice". With that certainly sometimes come harsh remarks on people, but when I see someone being so obviously being intellectually dishonest and stupid, I will not hold back. I think that is a very good quality in a person and while in the current nanny state of world, speaking your mind and saying how it really is, is considered a sin, I raise my hands and salute that quality in people. I have no time for mollycoddling, especially when dealing with supposedly adults. My personal view is that the infraction given to Flat.tyres really was not justified, but fair play to the admins, it is not my decision. While I wouldnt encourage swearing, I dont think words such as **** and bull**** are bad at all. You hear language much more colourful in a school-class filled by 11 year olds.
Added to that, Flatty is a good addition, because unlike some "respected" posters here, he usually doesnt run away from a debate when confronted with an opinion contradictory to his. That said, I would be intimidated to debate myself as well :D
Now were getting somewhere, where do personally you draw a line between blunt and polite discussion and an insult?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres
Obviously it's somewhere between you saying someone talks" BS" YET AGAIN and me saying that responding to infactions using terms like pathetic infraction system it's is frankly nauseating as being a being similar what spoilt girls moan when things don't go in their favour.
One thing more, I was here in the bad old days when F1 forum was split into two separate sub forums, one with Ferrari discussion and other without it, if keeping this place ending up like it was then means sometimes heavy handed tactics to put out fires before they go out of control, it needs to be done because it was really hurting the forum then.
I can't imagine a cultural environment where language like that is "commonly accepted" :sQuote:
Originally Posted by Flat.tyres