Alonso back to Renault..........

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Originally Posted by truefan72

penalize him for what?

The guy is leading the WDC and people here are talking about him needing to cool down, take a back seat, allow alonso the #1 etc. I strongly suspect that if this were anybody but LH, a young black driver, half of these posts and comments wouldn't even exist. Just the vitriol I read here goes way beyond the support of Alonso and into a whole other disturbing undertone.

sorry If I seem to be jumping on you on this post and I am not accusing you of any discriminatory intent, it just seems like LH is being judged on a different standard than the rest of the field. I read comments like RD's Boy, or Hamie boy, or other pseudo racist connotations and just about am fed up of that talk. maybe people need to understand the nexis of some of those statments and realize that they can easily be intepreted as slightly discriminatory. I never crticise drivers based on their origin or heritage and would hope that others could simply argue on merits/demerits rahter than bring in nationality etc.

Back to my original comment. What exactly should the current WDC leader be pepnalized for by his own team?

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I agree 100% with your reply truefan.. you are right..
there seems many people (even british) are against LH, and may be a bit jealous of why JB is not winning a race! how sad? ... it works the following way, if some british sports personality is non-white,half the population will say 'he is not good'..& as long as you keep winning you have a huge followers but when you lose once you will be criticised & shamed by the british media, if you white then obviously you have so many excuses & 'he was great' appalauds by british media (like Tim Henman)..this is Britain.. give me a break!..I bet Lewis to walkaway with the title this year..

anyhow .. dont know if any of you seen the following news story :
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...645638,00.html
FA was told if he wants to leave at the end of the year he can do so..!!!
well..FA will be a sad loser runningaway from the team because he cant compete on the track with HOT LH... it is indeed sad really!
to FA fans to put up and shut up//
if LH is beating the 2 times world champ a lot in his debut, then expect absolute fireworks from LH next year onwords, because he would have learnt all the tracks a bit more ! comon accept it and move on.

6 races to go, even if FA goes on to win the title this year, LH has given FA a good run for his money..keep up lad.

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Originally Posted by rohanweb

I agree 100% with your reply truefan.. you are right..
there seems many people (even british) are against LH, and may be a bit jealous of why JB is not winning a race! how sad? ... it works the following way, if some british sports personality is non-white,half the population will say 'he is not good'..& as long as you keep winning you have a huge followers but when you lose once you will be criticised & shamed by the british media, if you white then obviously you have so many excuses & 'he was great' appalauds by british media (like Tim Henman)..this is Britain.. give me a break!..I bet Lewis to walkaway with the title this year..

anyhow .. dont know if any of you seen the following news story :
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...645638,00.html
FA was told if he wants to leave at the end of the year he can do so..!!!
well..FA will be a sad loser runningaway from the team because he cant compete on the track with HOT LH... it is indeed sad really!
to FA fans to put up and shut up//
if LH is beating the 2 times world champ a lot in his debut, then expect absolute fireworks from LH next year onwords, because he would have learnt all the tracks a bit more ! comon accept it and move on.

6 races to go, even if FA goes on to win the title this year, LH has given FA a good run for his money..keep up lad.

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Thank you, I couldn't hold back anymore :)

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Originally Posted by jens

I don't understand, why should BMW be interested in Alonso as they already have two drivers, who might be (and I think they are) as good as the Spaniard. The same goes for Ferrari.

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Alonso is a proven winner, he has won the WDC twice, and he would be a very valuable asset in acquiring sponsors.

Alos, (and I don't know from where) there have been rumours all year that Nick is not happy at BMW and may be looking for another team. This has been circulating from the start of the season, although I'm not sure if there is any truth in it.

Regarding Ferrari, I read this:

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from F1 Technical
Joan Villadelprat, who worked with Alonso when he drove for Minardi, declared to the Spanish newspaper 'Dario AS' that Alonso's option on a Ferrari seat disappeared six years ago. "He had reached a deal to go to Ferrari for five years. Their agreement was final and his agent had even reached a verbal agreement with a handshake. One week later they signed with Briatore and Renault without Todt's consent, guaranteeing that he would never be a driver for Ferrari."

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Originally Posted by truefan72

Thank you, I couldn't hold back anymore :)

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I won't :)

So what everyone would suggest to RD and McLaren to keep Alonso's title secured? :D

I think McLaren should try to find some middle ground to keep Alonso. I believe he is more than just a "lucky WDC" and has proved that by acheiving it twice against the best at that time. Sure he is high strung, has an ego, and expects to be treated as the star driver. Most of them in that business do. Just look at Ralf. If it is true that he allowed Hamilton to use inaccurate set-up info a couple of times and Hamilton suffered for it, it only serves to prove that the lack of experience does hinder Hamilton and at the very least Hamilton should consider thanking Alonso in the press for his assistance. I doubt Hamilton would have had the success that he has had without Alonso's assistance. On the bias side, Hamilton is just too icky, dripping sugar nice in public. Nobody is that nice. I've been waiting for the facade to drop and so it has. Over the long haul, Alonso will get McLaren there through experience, if they use it. I think Ron ought to set Hamilton out 1 race to remind the young man who runs the team and how certain behaviour on the radio will not be tolerated. I hope Alonso stays.

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Originally Posted by tinchote

Regarding Ferrari, I read this:

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likely, There is no smoke without fire.
There must have been clash between Alonso & co and the Ferrari that can't make them working together.

However all possibility still opens, just like we never thought before Kimi would drive Ferrari. The thing will very much depend on which McLaren wins this year? If Alonso wins he could take all his multiple years contract at McLaren, but if Hamilton then Alonso and Ferrari might be on the same boat have that all miseries from McLaren.

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Originally Posted by leopardsleeping

likely, There is no smoke without fire.
There must have been clash between Alonso & co and the Ferrari that can't make them working together.

However all possibility still opens, just like we never thought before Kimi would drive Ferrari. The thing will very much depend on which McLaren wins this year? If Alonso wins he could take all his multiple years contract at McLaren, but if Hamilton then Alonso and Ferrari might be on the same boat have that all miseries from McLaren.

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Could be :)

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

I think McLaren should try to find some middle ground to keep Alonso. I believe he is more than just a "lucky WDC" and has proved that by acheiving it twice against the best at that time. Sure he is high strung, has an ego, and expects to be treated as the star driver. Most of them in that business do. Just look at Ralf. If it is true that he allowed Hamilton to use inaccurate set-up info a couple of times and Hamilton suffered for it, it only serves to prove that the lack of experience does hinder Hamilton and at the very least Hamilton should consider thanking Alonso in the press for his assistance. I doubt Hamilton would have had the success that he has had without Alonso's assistance. On the bias side, Hamilton is just too icky, dripping sugar nice in public. Nobody is that nice. I've been waiting for the facade to drop and so it has. Over the long haul, Alonso will get McLaren there through experience, if they use it. I think Ron ought to set Hamilton out 1 race to remind the young man who runs the team and how certain behaviour on the radio will not be tolerated. I hope Alonso stays.

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:) This is good seeing more people have opinion that he isn't just a lucky WDC, and on the other hand brings more luckiness to the team at the relevant time he is driving at, that might also coupled with his ability developing a car.

I think Hamilton in this his first year wasn't RD's plan A. When the season get started in Australia Alonso got the favor more than Hamilton and become more obvious when RD owned up applying that controversy strategy couple races thereafter.

The thriller commenced from in a round called Spa where Alonso had to start behind of Massa and having collided each other at the first corner and Hamilton took benefit and leading the whole race, and afterwards his performance unstoppable get rocketing.

Budapest was the worse thing happened throughout his career, i feel that chaotic emphatically being ignored by his junior teammate.
The only thing Alonso can do is obeying the team plan while never switch the fighting spirit off and stop sharing data of race and car with his teammate, although this is too late, Hamilton has already learned a lot of thing.

Here's what should happen... Michael Schumacher should come out of retirement and create his own raceteam and hire Fernando Alonso and they could kick everyone's butt for years. Lewis will be floundering around asking for setups from everyone. :P :D ;)

Just kidding...Lewis is great... ;)





But MS and Alonso are greater... ;)