Is this (see attachment) the car everyone is talking about?
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Is this (see attachment) the car everyone is talking about?
Yes that's the one, that is for "race series unknown" ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Giuseppe F1
(Now we see how long the photo stays there.)
Is this definately even a Panoz chassis? The logos on the mechanics shirts dont look like Panoz logos....although maybe they areQuote:
Originally Posted by Giuseppe F1
isnt this supposedly the chassis update for the f3000 italia series??
It looks like a Champ Car with an Air box to me, but hey, who really knows? I can say if everyone was taking the pics off the net as fast as they were posting, I suspect where there is smoke, there is fire.
If the IRL is going to go to a new chassis, they will no doubt talk to Panoz. I suspect though that they will avoid this new car like the plague to avoid merger talk. Tony has not wanted to talk merger even consider common rules. He will talk to KK, and they will bat ideas around, but I suspect that until he has decided he has had enough of losing money, he wont talk merger.
If they do NOT go with Panoz for next year, then they will likely get Dallara or Lola for the next chassis. Maybe both. I just hope they go for a more visually appealing car. Of course, some weird part of me would love to see a Front engined roadster for the new century in the IRL. That would end all talk of the difference between the two series now wouldn't it??? Ok, maybe it is a loopy idea, but hey, I put it out there to find out how many rotten tomatoes can be tossed my way!
Mark, I don't know if it's a "loopy" idea or not, but it's a fun fantasy. From a personal standpoint, those all-different, powerful, chromed-up, some side-engined-for-ovals California supermodifieds are the prettiest race cars in the U.S.
I'd still like to see a modern take on the ol' "sausage" formula cars...completely wingless...clean and simple design. You wouldn't get "foot to the floor all the way 'round" racing then! :P
DRC, THAT is exactly the kind of Roadster that I would love to see. A modern take on the roadster, with very limited wings. Supermods would be fun in a sense, but they are just too radical. An elongated Sprint car with very limited tires would be an interesting take on a classic race would it not? Right now, you have cars that are essentially f1 style in their layout, and to the average guy on the street, he doesn't get the difference. Champ Car, IRL, F1, they all look the same to a non-race fan. Give the IRL an unique style of race car, and they can then have the field to themselves. Also, by having front engined big HP cars, you have another place for Sprint car drivers to go besides NASCAR. Of course, TG wouldn't listen to me on this, he didn't listen to a guy as smart and outspoken as Brock Yates on this years ago, so he wont listen to the likes of some goofball Canadian guy....
This is an illustration to the Racer article in which Brock Yates proposed the modern Indy roadster back in 96.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
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Originally Posted by Quetch
Can you imagine the appeal of cars like THAT racing on ovals? Just enough downforce to keep them on the ground, no aero that would cause the car to leave the ground if the car spins, full bodywork, motors enclosed. If TG had THIS car as his vision, I would have signed on. Instead, he bought up old CART cars and tried to tell us he had a better idea. It was to me, a fatal error. The only reason the IRL is alive today is because he has spent a small fortune keeping it alive. If he had taken them in a fresh direction and marketed it as a truly American series (what is more American than a front engined roadster? A Dallara isnt) then he would have gained the drivers he was supposed to be keeping a home for, the sprint and midget drivers. Those gents might have seen these cars as something they could work with. They sure as heck didn't see a car they could handle in CART cars and the later IRL cars, and they went to NASCAR.
I still like the mid-engined sausages...and no wings at all. Big rubber, fine. Sidepods even...for safety, etc. OK, maybe it'll look like a bloated sausage, but I still think it would be cool.
Geez, I am a designer, you'd think I could draw one up...