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That's a pretty snobbish and elitist attitude you're expressing. As is "shut up, big brother knows what is good for you, you're too stupid to know anything yourself". The vote is done so learn to live with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Not quite true. The UK voted to join the EEC, before the EU was created.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
But the result was very tight. It would have been easier to deal with it if one of the sides had a large majority. But as it is it' s almost half/half and the frustration of those who lost may be understood. BTW, in case of perfect equality what would have happened? Deciding the result on penalties? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Starter
If it went to penalties then the Germans would win....:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
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I hope that something good for the EU will come out of this. I never though that the EU is perfect so there's definitely place for improvements. Maybe now they'll have some motivation to make some reforms. Of course, the Leave campaign was not as much focused on the real problems as they were on all sorts of rubbish, false facts and figures and myths about the EU membership.
There is definitely the downside, mostly economic, for both UK and EU about this split but I think there's something good in it too. Britain was already barely in. They weren't really a constructive force in EU. More like the opposite. They were always the exception, always negative, always special, always opting out. I certainly won't miss their condescending attitude.
You'd also get a different number of votes if you had a 'do over' today, partly because of those that threw away their vote and partly because of idiots like this bloke http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-wh...award-5964450/Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
What better argument one can have against this sort of 'direct democracy' than this guy. He voted to leave because he thought remain will win. It's so funny and sad at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
If that's how I come across then so be it. I apologise if you don't like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
As part of my degree I studied the 'Economics of European Integration' so I believe I was probably better informed on this debate than many other people. I know this is elitist, but I believe it to be true.
If people voted 'leave' from a well reasoned opinion then I don't have a problem. That's how democracy should work. But I have a dreadful feeling in my stomach that many people have voted leave on the back of lies, myths and misinformation.
Your vote only counts once like everyone elses though. Sadly your extra knowledge could only have been any use if you campaigned actively and informed others of what you saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Countries should not be run with that emotion though. It should always be how does each party get the best from the current situation. It would aid both sides to remain trading partners and allow movement of peoples. Which wont stop despite some Leave voters wanting it and Remain voters stating thats what will happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo