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28th June 2013, 09:54
zako85

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Originally Posted by vhatever

Why would I look up "STR2" when it was the STR3. You can't even get your chassis straight.

I absolutely can. Toro Ross started racing in 2008 with an updated 2007 STR2 chassis, then switched to STR3 chassis some time later. So my statement was correct. In any case, this didn't matter much. The STR3 was also widely believed to be a Newey chassis, as you can likely look up yourself? Why should I be wasting too much breath on correcting the obviously wrong statement by you. I just told you to do some homework. My time was too precious to figure out exactly which chassis name that particular Newey chassis was back in 2008.
28th June 2013, 10:09
vhatever

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Originally Posted by zako85

I absolutely can. Toro Ross started racing in 2008 with an updated 2007 STR2 chassis, then switched to STR3 chassis some time later. So my statement was correct. In any case, this didn't matter much. The STR3 was also widely believed to be a Newey chassis, as you can likely look up yourself? Why should I be wasting too much breath on correcting the obviously wrong statement by you. I just told you to do some homework. My time was too precious to figure out exactly which chassis name that particular Newey chassis was back in 2008.

Your time is too precious to have any idea what you are talking about, apparently, so just make it up as you go along, eh? Vettel didn't do much to impress while driving the STR2.Luizi outfinished him, and bourdais out outpointed him.
28th June 2013, 10:33
zako85

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Originally Posted by vhatever

Your time is too precious to have any idea what you are talking about, apparently, so just make it up as you go along, eh? Vettel didn't do much to impress while driving the STR2.Luizi outfinished him, and bourdais out outpointed him.

It seems you love arguing for the sake of arguing. My opening statement was: Vettel did well in Neweys chassis in 2008. This is a well known fact. You disagreed. I directed you to look this up. Now who gives the flying f**k cares what was the name of that chassis, STR2 or STR3? It could have been called SuperTurbo3D200HD Toro Ross. It still wouldn't have changed the fact that it was a RBR chassis. But you seem to care about the nomenclature, so go look it up if it's really important to you, now that you have just now learned that Vettel was racing in a Newey chassis in 2008.
28th June 2013, 10:57
vhatever

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Originally Posted by zako85

It seems you love arguing for the sake of arguing. My opening statement was: Vettel did well in Neweys chassis in 2008. This is a well known fact. You disagreed. I directed you to look this up. Now who gives the flying f**k cares what was the name of that chassis, STR2 or STR3? It could have been called SuperTurbo3D200HD Toro Ross. It still wouldn't have changed the fact that it was a RBR chassis. But you seem to care about the nomenclature, so go look it up if it's really important to you, now that you have just now learned that Vettel was racing in a Newey chassis in 2008.

It wasn't a RBR chassis as it never would have fit the Ferrari engine. But i think any sane, intelligent person reading by now would have concluded you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
28th June 2013, 11:23
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by vhatever

It wasn't a RBR chassis as it never would have fit the Ferrari engine. But i think any sane, intelligent person reading by now would have concluded you simply have no idea what you are talking about.

Maybe they adapted it to fit, which while being a compromise explains why they were never quite as quick as the 'works' team...?
28th June 2013, 11:39
The Black Knight

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Originally Posted by vhatever

So what was your early claim based upon:

now you make the bogus claim that it was actually what is going to happen NEXT year. I guess its hard to keep track of all your lies.

Fair enough, it was a contradiction. But since I've read more about his decision and his reasons for it, coupled with the fact that Dietrich Mateschitz and Mark get along quite well, my opinion has changed, but you're welcome to yours ;)
28th June 2013, 11:50
henners88

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Maybe they adapted it to fit, which while being a compromise explains why they were never quite as quick as the 'works' team...?

You mean like Brawn did in 2009 to a chassis that was designed around a Honda unit, but was adapted to fit a Mercedes engine? As you say, it can be done.

STR also had to wait until the Monaco GP in 2008 before they had the 2008 spec car. It was to be the last edition coming from Red Bull apparently. Hopefully this has cleared a few things up. :)
28th June 2013, 15:50
kfzmeister

Man love. :D

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28th June 2013, 22:05
truefan72

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

You're right, henners. I'll just ignore him.

me too :rolleyes:
28th June 2013, 22:13
steveaki13

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Originally Posted by henners88

I really wouldn't waste your time Mr Knight. A room is very quiet if nobody responds :)

Why more people dont listen to you Henners I dont know.

Certain debates are not worth having

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