Massage to Indy brass...

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Originally Posted by Starter

First, people, and therefore sponsors, go where the most people watch. LeMans, yes, it still has the worldwide attention as does F1. IndyCar lost it during the split. There is no appreciable audience for sponsors to play to. The series would need to gain a following before companies start spending major advertising dollars here. It's a chicken & egg thing.

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Agree that people and sponsor go where most people watch therefore wouldn't it be good idea to go in direction of LeMans and F1 as little as they could now with new engine and kits to get some interest. Why have a spec car and spec type of racing when sponsors and manufacturers have that in nascar. I believe you are wrong in regards to a new generation of car and speed enthusiasts . There is nothing to get their interest except boring yellows and ugly cars that sound like vacuum cleaners. I could agree with a rest of your post,but if they don't invest in new developement and no future plan then as fans we both lose and posting here is waste of time. I still like to believe they will change direction ,because they are not all blind at a main office.They have to see that formula car is special breed of a machine that matters. Hope for the best.

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Originally Posted by FIAT1

Agree that people and sponsor go where most people watch therefore wouldn't it be good idea to go in direction of LeMans and F1 as little as they could now with new engine and kits to get some interest. Why have a spec car and spec type of racing when sponsors and manufacturers have that in nascar. I believe you are wrong in regards to a new generation of car and speed enthusiasts . There is nothing to get their interest except boring yellows and ugly cars that sound like vacuum cleaners. I could agree with a rest of your post,but if they don't invest in new developement and no future plan then as fans we both lose and posting here is waste of time. I still like to believe they will change direction ,because they are not all blind at a main office.They have to see that formula car is special breed of a machine that matters. Hope for the best.

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You've just gone in a circle. Where do the funds come from for that??? You also added engines to the mix. What do you think Honda and Chevy will do if you toss their motors? They are about the only two major companies supporting the series now.

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Originally Posted by Starter

You've just gone in a circle. Where do the funds come from for that??? You also added engines to the mix. What do you think Honda and Chevy will do if you toss their motors? They are about the only two major companies supporting the series now.

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Honda and Chevy,aren't they competing already and would like more players.More players more money, more sponsors more fans etc. Ok national championship runoffs then.Enjoy!

I don't think a lot of teams will afford to be in IndyCar if cars are not spec. I personally have no issues with the current car, other that all cars look alike. A nice compromise would be to finally allow the custom aero kits. And realistically, custom aero kits is the best we can get in the near future as far as cars go. Unfortunately, teams voted against this.

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Originally Posted by 00steven

The casual fan doesn't give a rats ass about the cars. They care about what's trending, shove it there face and they will watch.

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Everytime I hear something is "trending" I want to vomit.

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Originally Posted by FIAT1

Interesting you said that. Roger Penske said a same thing when he switched to irl. Well ,what happened from that point on. I guess there is more casual fans than you think.

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Why is NASCAR successful than?

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Everytime I hear something is "trending" I want to vomit.

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That's the thought process now days.

I totally agree. They could start with opening up the engine rules to the 500 itself. They are running what, in the neighborhood of 550 hp at Indy? You can't tell me there aren't at least a dozen engines out there in that HP range that could fit in a Dallara for the 500 if they allowed. They need to allow several alternative fuels and mild hybrids. Hybrids and electric cars aren't going away. There is still an opportunuty to prove the performance of these emerging technologies and fuels. I love that aspect of LeMans competetion. It will never happen, but is 500 miles really an endurance challenge anymore? Maybe it's time to raise the basket, move the foul line, add 200 miles... something to make it a challenge. Make it 500 LAPS instead of 500 miles.

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Originally Posted by 00steven

Why is NASCAR successful than?

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I don't follow nascar regularly ,but it's a "trend" for some now days I guess. I was referring to sophisticated open wheel fans that have left after their sport was destroyed as they don't like dumb down spec formula and fixed yellow shows.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

I totally agree. They could start with opening up the engine rules to the 500 itself. They are running what, in the neighborhood of 550 hp at Indy? You can't tell me there aren't at least a dozen engines out there in that HP range that could fit in a Dallara for the 500 if they allowed. They need to allow several alternative fuels and mild hybrids. Hybrids and electric cars aren't going away. There is still an opportunuty to prove the performance of these emerging technologies and fuels. I love that aspect of LeMans competetion. It will never happen, but is 500 miles really an endurance challenge anymore? Maybe it's time to raise the basket, move the foul line, add 200 miles... something to make it a challenge. Make it 500 LAPS instead of 500 miles.

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Not to worry ,we can always count on pace car to be fastest thing at Indy nowadays.