Yep...calling R2s and R3s "no real cars" I think it's people not having seen the battles of the group on stages :rolleyes:
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Yep...calling R2s and R3s "no real cars" I think it's people not having seen the battles of the group on stages :rolleyes:
This is the reason why I don't follow national or regional rallies in the UK and Ireland, even not behind the computer. It is a real pity that there are so much different events in the same weekend. The IRC Rally Scotland and the IRC Circuit of Ireland were nice to follow and I like the roads and the scenery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
Do you know if Citroën will organize a DS3 R1 Cup either in UK or/and in Ireland next season :confused:
No mention of it in either the BRC or BRC Challenge Regulations. There is a Citroën Trophy in the BRC but that is for R3 cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
It's good that the cars are very close, but they're just not very exciting to watch and listen to. Turbo cars can sound good, but the DS3s are so quiet and unspectacular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Obviously you never saw a DS3 in a fast section... On a square junction, they are rather boring (but as are Gr N cars of S2000!). But in a fast section, Well driven R3 and R2 cars are very spectacular, certainly the DS3!Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain
Cronin / Clarke - Citroen DS3 3RT - Gale Rigg 2 - Rally Yorkshire 2012 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This is a shot I took of Keith Cronin at Rally Yorkshire, while BRC very much turned into 'Formula DS3' I was impressed by the skill and committment displayed by DS3 crews on both BRC rounds I attended last year. Evans was very spectacular in the R2 Fiesta.
The guys with WRC and other 4wd exotica have gone off to the BTRDA championship where (not to beat about the bush) deep pockets win out over skill (usually).
Steve Boyd's point about the Irish event needs clarification for non-UK residents. While the BRC and Irish Tarmac may be advertised as different events they take place over the same stages concurrently, have the same organising team, the same marshalls and to the spectator are all part of the same day's entertainment. In most cases the BRC is supplemented by a restricted distance beginner class and the Historic championship. You don't just go to see 20 cars, for many the BRC is an extra interest, additional to the main attraction of Escort Mk IIs
I saw them on a hairpinQuote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7236/7...2004f217_c.jpg
Tom Cave - Craig Parry by IainW81, on Flickr
And a square junction
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7...49ffd5b0_c.jpg
Keith Cronin - Marshall Clarke by IainW81, on Flickr
To be fair, they were good to watch as the drivers threw them into the corners. It's the noise that's the problem. They just don't sound fast. Give me a high-revving Clio R3 over the DS3. Mark Donnelly's car was really good to listen to as it passed that square junction and went flat-out down the road into the distance.
It's not a rallying problem as such, touring cars have adopted turbos and they don't sound that good either. But it seems to be the way motorsport is going at the moment.
I still feel all of this is rather academic, because the wider viewing public would expect, surely, to see competing the same cars as populate the sport's very top level. Does anyone believe that the old British Open Championship would have achieved its stature had it been the preserve of cars one or two 'levels' below top-line World Championship machinery? Until the costs of today's top-line machinery are reduced, allowing them to be bought by a wider pool of drivers and again become a viable option for domestic series, the likes of the BRC are, I feel, always going to be of limited appeal.
I hope we will have more news about BRC 2013(entries)after this week-end's Autosport Show of Birmingham :confused: