Long Beach Grand Prix Race Thread

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Originally Posted by Starter

Let's see...last year (the old) BB made up rules on the fly, used strange interpretations or disregarded rules on the books and was roundly blasted by most everyone. This year they're not messing with the rules whether not well thought out or not. So which is it guys? You can't have it both ways. Of course, I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored. ;)

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This is a new rule because of the new engines. I dont care who is calling the shots, this is completely absurd. Like I said, everyone thought that engine malfunctions and problems were going to happen so they shouldnt restrict these teams and engine manufacturers even more. They have enough to worry about getting them fine tuned and up to speed to make them compeitive.

Like I said, these engine changes werent made during race qualifications, after a first practice, etc so no penalty should be given.

I am proud of Chevy for making a stand and changing the engines because of thier concern. Kudos to Chevy!

And Helio, yes Marco was on top of the speed charts yesterday. I know the track was wet but he was still on top.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

This is a new rule because of the new engines. I dont care who is calling the shots, this is completely absurd. Like I said, everyone thought that engine malfunctions and problems were going to happen so they shouldnt restrict these teams and engine manufacturers even more. They have enough to worry about getting them fine tuned and up to speed to make them compeitive.

Like I said, these engine changes werent made during race qualifications, after a first practice, etc so no penalty should be given.

I am proud of Chevy for making a stand and changing the engines because of thier concern. Kudos to Chevy!

And Helio, yes Marco was on top of the speed charts yesterday. I know the track was wet but he was still on top.

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Rules like these are terible and should be revised, but the fact that Indycar is standing firm is a good thing. Change can be made at onother date ,but if change would take place now would be very bad for the series.

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Originally Posted by FIAT1

Rules like these are terible and should be revised, but the fact that Indycar is standing firm is a good thing. Change can be made at onother date ,but if change would take place now would be very bad for the series.

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Im glad Indycar stands firm on rules but this rule should have never been made in the first place.

If I was one of the penalized teams, I would save all my red tires for the race.
Why ruin them in qualifying ? You are going to lose 10 places anyways.

During the race, you just shortpit, get off strategy, and run most of the race on reds.

Here are the qualifying groups going out today..

Group 1	Group 2
#15 Takuma Sato	#26 Marco Andretti
#11 Tony Kanaan	#14 Mike Conway
#2 Ryan Briscoe	#4 JR Hildebrand
#5 E.J. Viso	#28 Ryan Hunter-Reay
#9 Scott Dixon	#3 Helio Castroneves
#8 Rubens Barrichello	#7 Sebastien Bourdais
#20 Ed Carpenter	#12 Will Power
#98 Alex Tagliani	#22 Oriol Servia
#6 Katherine Legge (R)	#78 Simona de Silvestro
#27 James Hinchcliffe	#10 Dario Franchitti
#38 Graham Rahal	#77 Simon Pagenaud (R)
#83 Charlie Kimball	#19 James Jakes
#18 Justin Wilson	#67 Josef Newgarden (R)

Here are the groups for qualifying....

Group 1

#15 Takuma Sato
#11 Tony Kanaan
#2 Ryan Briscoe
#5 EJ Viso
#9 Scott Dixon
#8 Rubens Barrichello
#20 Ed Carpenter
#98 Alex Tagliani
#6 Katherine Legge
#27 James Hinchcliffe
#38 Graham Rahal
#83 Charlie Kimball
#18 Justin Wilson

Group 2

#26 Marco Andretti
#14 Mike Conway
#4 JR Hildebrand
#28 Ryan Hunter-Reay
#3 Helio Castroneves
#7 Sebastien Bourdais
#12 Will Power
#22 Oriol Servia
#78 Simona De Silvestro
#10 Dario Franchitti
#77 Simon Pagenaud
#19 James Jakes
#67 Josef Newgarden

Ok, why no video feed for Lights quals? Come on man!

Will nbcs broadcast quals live or tape delay? Anybody have an idea?

To answer my own question. No, the b'cast at 5 Central will not be live. Quals are happening right now. Geesh MLS soccer??? Really? And no help on the Indy website. Radio is in the on off on off mode.

Wow, bad luck for Dixon with the fire.