4 degrees of camber

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Just curious, did the FIA control the weather at Spa? The teams that had issues painted themselves into a corner IMO. They were hoping to dodge the regulations in the interest of "safety" but that "safety" wasn't a large enough issue to cause them to lose grid positions in the interest of maintaining said safety.

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The FIA could have allowed them to adjust the camber and not have to start from the pit lane. Red bull can't control the weather, either. They ahd no problem with that camber in the past so why would they at spa? But the FIA has been trying all year to screw over red bull to try to slow vettel down so whiny british trash doesn't start committing mass suicide. Apparently they decided to burn down london instead. Wouldn't surpside me at all if pirelli is being squeezed to try to take as much wind out of the sails of vettel/red bull as possible at this juncture and this blistering was entirely intended by them,

You're kinda all over the place, it looks like.

The other teams were against allowing RB to be able to make a change, not FIA. Sorta like the Bridgestone runners didn't agree on letting them install a barrier at Indy in 2005, so that Michelin runners would be o.k.
FIA trying to screw over RB all year? Lol

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Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1

This is a good insight. McLaren, Ferrari followed Pirelli recommendations | Formula 1 Blog

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Ironic that this blog was written by Negative Camber?? Funny.

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Originally Posted by kfzmeister

You're kinda all over the place, it looks like.

The other teams were against allowing RB to be able to make a change, not FIA. Sorta like the Bridgestone runners didn't agree on letting them install a barrier at Indy in 2005, so that Michelin runners would be o.k.
FIA trying to screw over RB all year? Lol



Ironic that this blog was written by Negative Camber?? Funny.

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Of course the other teams didn't want to allow them to do that. DUH. Seriously, i hope you didn't have to consult sherlock holmes to figure that one out.

And did you jsut start watching F1 last week? Cause if you followed the blown diffuser nonsense of this year, you would realize how stupid you look when laughing off the realit of FIA trying to screw over red bull.

Why would the FIA or other teams allow Red Bull and Red Bull only to circumvent the regulations? This would be like giving the other teams a penalty for playing by the rules and running their cars within the specs set down by Pirelli.

I have no sympathy at all for Red Bull. They rolled the dice and took their chances and lost. They further played the safety angle but made it clear that safety wasn't their real concern, having the fastest car on track with disregard to safety was their real concern. It's either that, or they never felt it was really a safety issue and just wanted an exception to the rules.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Why would the FIA or other teams allow Red Bull and Red Bull only to circumvent the regulations? This would be like giving the other teams a penalty for playing by the rules and running their cars within the specs set down by Pirelli.

I have no sympathy at all for Red Bull. They rolled the dice and took their chances and lost. They further played the safety angle but made it clear that safety wasn't their real concern, having the fastest car on track with disregard to safety was their real concern. It's either that, or they never felt it was really a safety issue and just wanted an exception to the rules.

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I think you have totally lost the plot. This thread is about regulating camber settings. And since it appears you are totally confused about the difference between a recommendation and a regulation, you really should contemplate on it, preferably with a dictionary by your side.

Whilst you're partly right, there's no need to be such an arse about it. The rules say you can run more camber, but Pirelli recommend less, so...........

It's only a recommendation that they should not exceed that camber,at the end of the day it's the engineers decision to what negative,or for that matter positive camber they run ,as is king pin inclination too!

My guess is that they couldn't change the camber mid race without screwing things up. Tbh I doubt they were really as worried as they seem.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I was rather surprised they pitted Vettel after the first stint and put him back on the option tyre even though they hadn't changed the camber. If safety was a major concern I'd like to know why a) they didn't make the recommended adjustments, and b) they put a driver back on tyres they knew blistered and risked his safety? I think they knew 'safety' would always be an angle that would gain interest, and to be honest I think they realised their tyres had suffered more than the opposition and wanted an advantage. It didn't happen and they proved safety wasn't the real concern once the race was underway. It didn't do them any harm and they won the race quite convincingly anyway.

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You think they can change camber on four tires like adjusting a wing or something? ROFLMAO. Never heard anything so stupid.

Didn't the initial reports come out saying that it was Pirelli who went to Red Bull with concern , and not that Red Bull went asking the FIA about changing the camber ?
Hembery wouldn't give up the number on how much over they were .
But , Newey did .
Mind you , though , he wasn't very specific about it , at four and an eighth or so .

If this really did scare Newey as much as he stated it did , then we won't see the limit breached again .

But , this being the world of F1 , where rules are meant to be bent , Adrian just saw the limit , just down the road .


The rest were never going to agree with this change before the race if they weren't suffering as much .

It may be that this is all a ruse , to keep people feeling that Red Bull are on the back foot .
They did put him back on softs .
And , they did win the race and take second as well .
Perhaps Adrian expected bad wearing of the softs with a light car , and knew they would do better on heavy fuel for the second stint .