But what about Reid being penalised for tapping and passing Rydell in 1998 at Brands Hatch. Tim Harvey would have called that move 'a classic Matt Neal maneuver'.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndySpeed
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But what about Reid being penalised for tapping and passing Rydell in 1998 at Brands Hatch. Tim Harvey would have called that move 'a classic Matt Neal maneuver'.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndySpeed
An example that goes to show how attitudes have changed in the intervening years when it comes to the lesser contact. I am sure what Thompson did to Plato in '99 would be deemed just as unacceptable today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Isolated incidents from the 90's fair enough - but Thompson and Reid were both punished. As Jon Brown says, thesedays the Reid incident is "classic move" usually a Team Dynamics Honda. In my view it is not racing. Contact will always happen and IS part of touring cars. But not a "shove up the back" - that is cynical and cowardly tactic which for some reason doesn't get punished. Side by side banging is part and parcel and is what we want to see.
Are Chevrolet complaining about the turbo cars in WTCC? Of course they're not because they're one of the only teams using the Turbo engine and they're kicking arse! Don't hear them complaining about 'Equivalencey' or 'Parity' over there!
Every serious entry in the WTCC is using Turbo engines. In the WTCC it was not said that the two different types of engine would be equivalent. In the BTCC it was. I am truly stunned as to how complicated an idea this is for people to get their heads round. I seem to have vastly over-rated the average intelligence of most people if this is anything to go by.
TOCA said NGTC & S2000 engines would be EQUIVALENT until 2013. That means, for those who don't understand big words, that there should be no advantage to running a turbo performance wise, only in cost savings. It also means that the top non-turbo teams should be very competitive with the turbo teams (which is clearly not the case).
Sorry, should have been a bit more clear, "Using the new 1.6T petrol engine" as a pose to the old TDi, or would you say the 6-car Sunred outfit aren't a serious entry?
and at risk of repeating myself...
The Chevys look pretty competitive to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce-1980
Only Tarquini would have a place in a "works" SEAT entry, and 3 meetings in he's got the turbo engine! Because as you saw at the first couple of meetings, they couldn't compete. The likes of Dudukalo, Barth, Nykjaer & Oriola are journeymen at WTCC level.
Tell me, how many times has a non-turbo car overtaken a turbo car without one of them having a problem? And then tell me how many times a turbo has gone by a non-turbo?
To be fair to Bruce nine cars in the last round at Monza were using either a non-turbo or the old 2 litre turbodiesel.
Also, Nykjær is doing pretty well and to call him a journeyman is a bit unfair given the experience he's building now. He's a strong racer and didn't he win the European Touring Car Cup a couple of times?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
The ETC Cup hasn't exactly been the strongest of fields of late. Experience =/= Talent.
WTCC Qualifying Monza
1 Turbo Petrol
2 Turbo Petrol
3 Turbo Petrol
4 Turbo Petrol
5 Turbo Diesel
6 Turbo Petrol
7 Turbo Petrol
8 Turbo Petrol
9 Turbo Petrol
10 Turbo Diesel
The best non-turbo was the FACTORY Volvo team down in 16th with an NA Petrol! Over a second off the pace.