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I think it's pretty clear that Ogier wants to be champion with Loeb still around, he wants to beat him. Another interesting thing is a video I saw in Youtube where Loeb is arriving at service park and saluting all his mechanics and team member and Quesnel arrives to salute him but he seems very dissapointed and guilty, Loeb smiles and Quesnel retratcs immediately after shaking hands.
Quesnel was told for a long time! Loeb was very clear on this subject, during the renewal of his contract, before Ogier signs his last year, he suggested him to join Ford because he was not willing to being N°2.
Ask Loeb 7 times Champion to freeze positions during the 2th rally of the season, while he still is in position to win is unrealistic.
Sports are a battle and at the end it is the best which wins. Citroën has 2 greats combatants in the team, it is a big risk but it is Quesnel which is a dreamer by believing able of being to manage easily this situation.
Ogier wants to win, but especially to beat Loeb!! And loeb please not be allowed to make it without fighting... That's it. Who could blame him for it???
We shall never see Loeb driving as a civil servant, 2 minutes behind the best one, and waiting that they make an error to acquire the win. He will stop its career before it.
At same time we risk seeing this season of the enlivened rally's and not flavourless streams as sometimes.
René, you forgot something of some importance in your translation, the article says "according to our sources". Means someone heard something behind a curtain... indeed, it's a source.
I don't buy the story of Quesnel freezing positions in Ogier's favor. Quesnel knew Loeb lost 50 seconds and that he was leading the rally fairly and squarely before it happened. Moreover, Loeb had a better 3rd day road position, 10 seconds only to recover over two long stages, making it a strong possibility for Loeb to win the rally, plus he knows Loeb's caracter.
But still, he would ask him to freeze positions in such circumstances ? no way, IMHO.
Quesnel probably said something like, we are leading tonight, i don't care who wins, i want my two cars on top of the podium. As a result of the apprentice willing to reach the master's level too early, Ogier crashed out.
If you listen to Ogier's interviews, he refers to other drivers and to "him" (Loeb), he never speaks in term of team and doesn't act like a team mate. There certainly is a discipline problem at Citroën for Ford's pleasure :)
Probably that someone was me.. here in the forum :-P It is called snowball effectQuote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
True... however, Loeb was like Ogier is now when Team Citroen was formed and contained drivers like McRae and Sainz and he admitted it himself. He said he understands Ogier very well but is going to fight for 8th title. This comment was made before Rally Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by GINE
I think everybody forgets what kind of terms of a contract he was promised when moving to Team Citroen from Junior Team. He has made it very clear that he was promised there are no number one driver.
If I was Ogier, damn right I wouldn't settle to be number two. IMO he did right, too bad he made a small mistake which cost too much. Think Ogier would have win !!! He would be everybodys hero. I think his mistake was worth of a risk. :up:
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Originally Posted by Karukera
You are right, precision is important, but I think that the journalist who was on place did not want to implicate the person having assisted debate brought back facts (certainly a Citroen Team member). It is specified in the article, that Quesnel finally let 2 Seb for fight by asking them to stay on the road.
“Ogier is surely one of my biggest rivals for title. Do not attack in my situation, 10 seconds behind him while I had a position favorable on the road, it was to give him a gift. And, not while giving gifts we can earn races and titles. (...) I did not wish what arrived at him, but when we leave to the attack we know that this can arrive, both of us. (...) In Portugal, he will have a good position on the road, I shall not ask him to give me a gift and it is normal. It is going to make his race, I shall make mine.”
We shall know more about this story very soon and the next Rally will be interesting to follow ;)
Citroën WRT wins the drivers with Leob and Ford with the manufactures?
Íf things continue the way they are, that is going to be inevitable. More interesting is to follow how shall thing called teamspirit develop in team Citroen....Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
no...Citroen wins everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
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Originally Posted by N.O.T