BTCC vs WTCC vs DTM vs V8 Supercars

V8 supercars is the best touring car category out of BTCC and WTCC. The action and the racing quality is just great. The tracks are brillient. The best tracks on the calender would have to be: Clipsal 500 at Adelaide, Philips Island near Melbourne, Bathurst at Mount Panarama near Sydney, Sandown in Victoria and few others.

V8 supercars might not have much downforce but have a lot more Horse-Power than DTM, WTCC and BTCC. V8 supercars are more for the tight street circuits where as the other 3 are for fast flowing circuits. you cant actually say whats best because they all produce great racing becides American Nas**t (nascar) oval racing. no skill in that. nascar gotta be worse than WTCC. Im not trying to offend anyone so if i am. My apologises.

If i was to compare BTCC, WTCC and V8 Supercars. V8 supercars would have to be the best, even if the cars are heavy and have pushrods. geneally, who gives a s**t. I dont. I feel that pushrods are more reliable than the Overhead Cams.

End the thread! As much as I do enjoy watching the BTCC, Motorhead224 is right, V8 Supercars rules!

A brief overview and look at a new Car of The Future spec V8SC - in this case a 888 Holden Commodore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_ip2PQP9Ok

In order of preference.

Close tie between Aussie V8's and BTCC. For different reasons, though. You can't beat the Aussie V8's on sound alone. Btcc is always lively.

WTCC, never get to see it, but when I did it was fairly dull.
DTm, shockingly boring. Bad commentators don't help either though.

That's me done. Except, I would rather watch Legend car racing than DTM or WTCC. Legends are the most fun, great racing, basic so what, its about the entertainment value. It should be on tele regulary, the average person would love it.

I think one thing that makes V8 supercars so great is the race tracks. Most of the race tracks and the V8 supercars fit each other like hand and glove. I think the race in Abu Dhabi was a proof of this as that race track was nothing like V8 traditional tracks, and the show was boring IMO. The V8 the cars are also fine. They're powerful and mean looking (not wimpy looking like in BTCC or ugly redneck coupes in NASCAR), and they actually look like a stock car as opposed to what you have in NASCAR or DTM.

It's hard to decide between BTCC and V8 supercars, but I'll give the edge to V8 supercars. I have watched summaries of 2011/2012 WTCC and I found this show more boring, more predictable than BTCC.

Finally, DTM is a fine series, but I feel like it almost does not belong in comparisons with BTCC or V8 supercars. DTM cars drive, sound, and look like they are purpose-built race cars, kind of like prototypes, open wheelers, or GT cars, that were dressed to look like stock cars. I know Australian V8 supercars are far from stock internally, and yet not only they look stock but they seem to behave decidedly like "stock" cars, whereas DTM cars race more like open wheelers.

V8 Supercars, then DTM.......


followed miles behind by British & World bumper cars.....

I actually think the BTCC is living on it's history when it was a fine series. Shockingly awful cars, terrible driving standards, the only thing it has is a great media presence.

As for the WTCC, undeserving of an FiA World Championship moniker. Are they the best cars, drivers, tracks, etc

I think not.

With Merc and Nissan joining the Aussie V8's could we see this formula spread globally? If the WTCC used that car spec for its series, it would popular in OZ and the US straight away, would pick up fans in the UK straight away, and no doubt Europe. They tried to start a V8 series in the UK a few years back I believe Andy Rouse was involved, It never happened. I think the V8 route for touring cars is the way to go, however DTM is poor. If those manufacturers took on the Aussie V8 rules and Spec, I think DTM would improve greatly. That and get rid of the terrible commentators.

What I am trying to say is the WTCC / FIA, could have a truly global touring car series with global interest, instantly. Its a no brainer, for me, but then I have no brain.

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Originally Posted by MAX_THRUST

I think the V8 route for touring cars is the way to go, however DTM is poor. If those manufacturers took on the Aussie V8 rules and Spec, I think DTM would improve greatly. That and get rid of the terrible commentators.

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Problem.

The "Car Of The Future" regs for V8Supercars were written with the intent to attract other manufacturers to compete with Holden and Ford. We're now left with a situation where not even FordMoCo or General Motors are prepared to even admit if there'll even be Commodores and Falcons after 2016.

There was a rumour in AutoAction (which should be taken with a grain of salt) that the committee which looks into these things, might be toying with the possibility of two-door cars beyond 2016, which suggests Mustangs and Camaros. Where this would leave Nissan and Erebus is anyone's guess.

It was mentioned on Top Gear last night that Mustangs are to be built for the UK market with a 2 litre engine, so I can see how Ford might start promoting Mustangs more globaly than at present. So an appearance in the V8 series would make sense I guess.

Having had a Vauxhall Omega (poor imitation of the Holden commodore) I love the big cars, but in the UK you can't buy anything from ford or Vauxhall that is that size of car. No Omega or Granada equivillant. If you wanna big car you have to buy a BMW or MERC it seems.